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По команде заклинателя все выращенные им грибы взрываются, нанося 845 to 1021 ед. урона от сил природы всем противникам в радиусе 0 м. Урон от каждого или от всех грибов написан?

Комментарий от 860665

Варам дали имбо спелл Удар колосса, который наносит не плохой урон да еще и игнорирует всю броню, а тут друлям дали грибы на которые мы тратим 3 секунды (чтобы получить фулл дамаг)

What sort of damage does this do for Boomkin? As feral, I lay three out there and detonate them on a pack... yielding about 1k damage per mob... more if any of the detonations crit. Clearly, any offensive feral dps ability (which is intended to do damage) would be more beneficial dps-wise. It's obvious that if the detonation is classified as nature (spell) damage, that spell power would likely affect it, and as a result, Boomkin (or even Resto) could see better numbers than myself.

These are lots of fun to sprout at the feet of unsuspecting adventurers, or for some aesthetic druid screen shots, but from a dps point of view, has anyone found them to be a dps increase?

There are a handful of other uses for these, but was it Blizzard's intention to have our lvl 85 ability (which requires the use of two seperate abilities, or for them to be triggered by another means) be a somewhat useful garnish, as opposed to a staple ability?

EDIT: After looking at the Balance talent tree a bit more closely, it appears that beyond the Balance of Power and Moonkin Form talents, there wouldn't appear to be any additional SP bonus for these mushrooms for boomkin spec. Also, it looks like there is only one talent which synergizes with the mushrooms (Fungal Growth)... which doesn't seem like much more than an added cc/slow mechanic. I'm not seeing any real boost for these guys... save for the benefit of having increased SP relative to a feral.

Комментарий от 440499

These will stay around for exactly 5 minutes before they explode automatically.

Комментарий от Ruein

You missed my point entirely. Let's bring it down simply to this; imagine for AoE on a group of 3+ enemies you had the choice between:

Selecting and placing three AoE placement type spells (involving using the ability and placing three times and then using the trigger ability) which all had a radius of three yards. Meaning any movement of the group and you lose your damage, which by the time you have placed all three is very likely.
An instant cone type spell which will hit all enemies in front of you for approx the value of a single placement (e.g. Shadowflame)

What do you pick?
In the end my entire post came down to: The times it takes to use three mushrooms is not worth the time it takes to flick out a single Typhoon and continue with your filler dps.

Fair enough I should have mentioned it makes the entire process "more complicated" instead of mentioning it "messing with your rotations".
The reason I mention single target spells like dots is because he mentioned the priority of Mushrooms over placing dots. I simply disagreed.

The overall principle of DPS in the end comes down to using whatever does the most damage fastest. Wild Mushrooms do not keep up with this principle mid-fight.

Комментарий от 758543

I think that this is nearly useless, if this was a spell that dropped mushrooms that acted like mines then it would come in handy, but you have to detonate them. As a resto druid I always get attacked by either player in PvP or NPCs in PvE, but the first thing I think of is Nature Grasp, not some mushrooms that look cool and just have a 3yrd radius and YOU have to detonate them, if you do it wrong you probably die... I cant even kill the Deeprun Rats with this! (They still look cool) Blizz plz make them to work like traps.

Комментарий от 335958

PTR Patch 4.0.6 - Mushroom damage has been increased by 15%, the AoE of the detonation now has a 6 yard radius (up from 3 yrds), and Wild Mushroom is now an instant cast (down from 0.5 sec.). This is assuming it goes live ofc.

Комментарий от 431608

Even with the buffs this spell is completely useless. Very small amount of damage. The GCD from dropping the mushrooms causes a dps loss to balance spec. The snare is very small and avoidable. And as a resto druid, when do we get time to stop and cast this spell? Better off filling your few seconds you aren't healing with using cyclone. In conclusion, this spell sucks even after buffs for every spec.

Комментарий от 765897

Everytime I use this I end up singing this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NnxgnhI4HM

Комментарий от 768078

Wow! I really wish people would stop caring about rotations and dps use of these new abilities. Look at the spell and think of how AWESOME it is. I'm leveling my druid as fast as possible just for this spell. It is so neat. It might not have the best use in pve dps rotations, but it has other cool uses like pvp and then maybe just plant the shrooms and just gaze at em! Seriously, people don't focus only on dps and rotation, look at other aspects of the game, like FUN.

Комментарий от 279580

The recent buff from patch 4.0.6., which - among other things - increased it's damage and radius, makes this spell even more ideal for AoE encounters like Magmaw, Maloriak, and Halfus. I can't wait to test it out!

Комментарий от Qieth

In order to avoid having multiple keybinds for the same spell, I'm using the following macro to handle my shrooms:
/castsequence reset=60, Wild Mushroom, Wild Mushroom, Wild Mushroom, Wild Mushroom: Detonate
This will allow you to cast three shrooms, and on the 4th click, they will detonate. The macro will reset to casting three shrooms if you wait 60 seconds without detonating. Once you Detonate, the macro will reset.

It's also worth noting that Detonate is not on the GCD, so you can trigger the detonation momentarily after setting down the third shroom.

Комментарий от 770424

I've actually had some uses for these mushrooms as a Resto Druid. Surely, Aoeing is not a concern for me while I'm healing, but I have used it successfully in a few places where lots of small, but low hp adds are spawned. I place them roughly at my own feet all together, and in the event that some of the adds come to me, I explode them without wasting mana or a GCD on them. Particularly used in the first boss of Stonecore, and even the last boss when a gravity well wasn't totally killing some of them.

Комментарий от Nabril

In the time it takes me to lay down 3 mushrooms and explode them, I can cast cyclone, hurricane, and go right back to damaging single targets doing FAR greater damage to a FAR larger area than these mushrooms will ever be capable of. I'm a balance druid geared for heroics and mushrooms will never replace my hurricane for AoE.

Mushrooms have a range of 5 yards each so to get something with all 3, they must be placed within 2 yards from eachother averaging about 3.5k damage each.

Комментарий от SoooWhoCares

Please correct me if I am wrong with anything.

For the questions I had concerning this spell I did some testing.
My questions were:
-Do these break CC effects ? For that I casted Hibernate on an enemy. After that I planted 3 mushrooms around this enemy and detonated them. Result: This did break the CC effect so I assume that mushrooms will break all other CC effects as well.

-Since you can plant these mushrooms in or around NPCs without ever aggroing anyone (not tested vs raid bosses yet) I wanted to make sure that those won't ever pull NPCs. So I went to Stratholme where the Ravaged Cadavers have stealth and invis detection. After planting all 3 mushrooms at the position of one of these cadavers I waited and watched. Nothing happened. Those won't make you aggro mobs. It's safe to plant them before a fight.

-How much do these scale with spell power ?
According to wowhead the spell does 845-1021 damage which makes it deal Ø933 damage without any stats and modificators included.
To test the scaling I used my feral talent tree. This one has no spell modificators and gives me the flat, unbuffed value but includes my stats.
With my feral equip I have: | With my healing equip I have:
Spell power: 163 | Spell power: 4473
Tooltip Ø-damage: 1032 | Tooltip Ø-damage: 3632

The final damage calculates as followed:
base damage depending on character level + damage due to spell power = final damage

When I get the damage due to spell power I can calculate how much damage per spell power I get and that's the scaling.

For feral equip with feral talent tree:
1032 Ø-damage stated in tooltip; 933 of this is the Ø base value -> 99 is the Ø scaling part
So I have +99 damage with 163 spell power. -> 60,736% spell power scaling

For healing equip with feral talent tree:
3632 Ø-damage stated in tooltip; 933 of this is the Ø base value -> 2699 is the Ø scaling part
So I have +2699 damage with 4473 spell power. -> 60,339% spell power scaling
The part that's calculated with more spell power should be more accurate.

This spell benefits from 4 balance tree talents, maybe even 5 (not sure about Owlkin Frenzy):
-Balance of Power -> +1% / 2% nature damage
-Eclipse (Solar) -> 17% + Masterybonus
-Moonkin Form -> +10% nature damage
-Earth and Moon -> +8% spell damage taken by enemies and +2% increased spell damage
...and 2 restoration tree talents:
-Heart of the Wild -> +2% / 4% / 6% Int and that means spell damage
-Master Shapeshifter -> +4% spell damage for Moonkin Form

And I'm quite sure they'll add a glyph for this spell within the next 3 patches. I've got this feeling :D

For TLDR:
1) Breaks CC effects.
2) Mushrooms are undetectable by NPCs and shouldn't ever be causing yuo to pull aggro (tested even at NPCs that have stealth & invis detection - but not vs raid bosses yet).
3) The scaling is ~60,33% without any modificators like those in the balance tree that increase the nature damage.
Please correct me if I am wrong with anything.

Комментарий от candyapplecorn

I use this spell for tanking. If it looks like a pull that's going to be difficult to get everyone in one spot so i can swipe/thrash; aka if i think im going to be charging amok the entire pull, then ill cast 3 mushrooms, and then cast detonate and go into bear form.

detonate has no GCD so i made a macro that casts detonate and bear form simultaneously. when the explosion goes off i get the aggro as if i casted it in bear, so 50% more aggro. 3 mushrooms sure beats healer aggro any day!

Комментарий от Zlayer

Will break hunter camouflage, and is an excellent counter to snake trap.

Also counters rogues trying to restealth in smoke bomb.

Комментарий от Bronkel

For anyone still hating on shrooms despite them being one of the best AoEs in the game (the actual best if used properly), I might add that Clearcasting completely removes their mana cost. Planting shrooms with the Clearcasting buff from Omen of Clarity will at this patch take NO mana, and it won't even remove the Clearcasting buff.

I know mana is usually no a problem at all for balance druids, though when stuck at an aoe heavy phase where you need to use hurricane and don't get the mana from swapping eclipses, this is a neat little trick to save you some mana.

Комментарий от 419043

This is literally a remote controlled biological bomb

Комментарий от 826905

The simplest way to view this spell is that it's the answer to some good Balance Druid's prayer of having any worthwhile burst potential, especially in more hostile environments. Shadow priests already have theirs, elemental shamans just need to just reach level 85 (Elemental Overload), warlocks already have an entire spec devoted to burst damage and mages... are mages. The ability to insta-kill people by pushing them off cliffs notwithstanding, this basically left the balance druids.

Комментарий от Dona4

My guildies are taking quite a liking to these badboys, excluding the tanks. For some unfathomable reason, tanks seem to be getting bad trips off of shrooms.

Комментарий от kgurnhill

The damage is actually pretty decent!
Placing these on top of a boss before the tank pulls is a good way to get a burst of damage!

Note: Placing the Mushrooms doesnt cause aggro, only if you detonate, also great for Multi-pack mobs!

Комментарий от guatafu

This is the line that divides mediocre from good moonkins. You HAVE to use Wild Mushroom to succeed.
Important: You must be within 40 yds of the mushroom or you will get an error message if you try to detonate.

For PvP you must use them if not for the damage then for the slow if you want to succeed at kiting anything.
Root or cyclone your target and place mushrooms around him while he's disabled.
Place them around the different entrances/exits from your flag room in Twin peaks or WSG or at the gates from Strand of ancients/isle of conquest, etc. anything that has a choke point to slow them.
Use them while kiting a melee instead of moonfire spamming.

For PvE you have to think ahead
The most obvious strategy is to place them before the fight starts, the mushrooms generate no aggro.
Place them where you know adds will be rounded up, for instance below Nozdormu's bubbles in Madness.
Place them when you're waiting for a phase, for example during Hagara's storm phases put them at her feet while you're moving, and blow them once her shield is down.
Place them while moving from the fire, like in Morchok's black blood phase while you run behind the pillars, it's better than moonfire spamming as it won't "waste" your astral energy (yeah just made up that name, but it makes sense) if you want to remain on a specific eclipse.

Комментарий от Vrakthris

In 5.04 there is a known issue with Fungal Growth, the area snare effect of Balance's Wild Mushroom, that is breaking stealth. Issue should be addressed in a future hotfix.

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Дикий гриб	85-го ур.

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Выращивает в указанной заклинателем области волшебный гриб с 5 ед. здоровья. Через 6 сек. гриб становится невидимым. По команде заклинателя все выращенные им грибы взрываются, нанося 0 ед. урона от сил природы всем противникам в радиусе 6 м. Одновременно можно разместить не более 3 грибов.

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