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Возможно ли поимать данный рецепт на 70ом лвле при крафте искрящего эфира с навыком 450? (и возможно ли ещё на чем то не столь затратном по времени поимать его)
ЗЫ: Шприц с лечебным зельем - прокнул на 426 на обсидиановых болтах.

Комментарий от 223607

Скилл 490. Прокнуло на Элементиевом ящике с инструментами
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12583173/Other/tazik.jpg

Комментарий от sabber777

а можно ли этот чант повесить на низкоуровневый пояс?

Комментарий от ren56

имба для твинка 70
правда на 70 может дропнуться только 1 рецепт
своему твинку 70 дропнулся с четвёртого раза прокачки инжинерки
потратил 18 000 голда
кстати как и все инжинерские чанты ставится вместе с обычными чантами
Аяш ЯЛ

Комментарий от 895638

Где почитать информацию о том, что

на 70 может дропнуться только 1 рецепт

откуда это вообще?

Комментарий от Prad

2 ren56:

правда на 70 может дропнуться только 1 рецепт

перед тем как писать хероту надо в этой хероте убедиться и ее проверить... как говориться пруф или GTFO!

Теперь по существу. Ограничений на 70-м лвл никаких нет, разница только в затаратах на реагенты... Тут мы можем увидеть прокачанную профу с несколькими открытыми рецептами на 70-м уровне. Правда шокера пока нет =(

Комментарий от 1015052

Ребят подскажите плиз.Хотел уточнить у меня твинк гном 69лвл,465 профа и есть "поле невидимости",могу ли я еще выбить этот рецепт?

Learned this one while creating Electrified Ether. Still wonder if all those cata engeneering enchant items are discovered through any engeneering crafts or through some particular ones? (According to reports its mostly either and obsidium bolts)

Also my in-game (russian) tooltip says it deals 6000 damage.

Комментарий от wye43

I just tested it and it doesn't trigger or require free global cooldown, so its possible to use it in button mashing macros.

Комментарий от 717529

Anyone know what sort of backfires this has?

Комментарий от Broshimitsu

This does not share cooldown with the goblin racial: Rocket Barrage

Комментарий от krogulek

why you cant just learn it @ engin trainer? :< blizzard makes me so sad sometimes...
only tinker im missing and i cant get it (also made much of trash and nothing) cos some1 in blizzard has a brain full of stupid ideas. Srsly...

from gm: like synapse springs or Z50 mana gulper its rare tink and may take a singnificant amount of time to drop/discover..

Комментарий от 689770

The Survival mastery affects this tinker.

Комментарий от 744686

Sigh.. So basically i have engi at 504 atm, last couple of hours I've been farming Volatile Air to make Elecrified Ether to have a chance at proccing this tinker..
Ive gotten the Cardboard Assasin, Grounded Plasma Shield(wich havent failed for me yet<3) Invisibility Field, Quickflip Deflection Plates, Z50 Mana Gulper... But pure unlucky with the Tazik's..
Everything else have procced from a green-orange craftable, but I see alot of posts here saying you can proc on grey's :)
Volatile Air goes for 31g each on my server, so you can see why I'm not just buying my way to Tazik.. Still.. Should have been learnable from a trainer... Alchemy earns money while discovering, us engi's either loose time or loose money.. Oh well, atleast I can see the irony in it.. >.<

Комментарий от nodoze

Curious if anyone at level 74 and below has been able to "discover" this? On my 70 character I enabled the Cata trial and only did cata recipies from 425 to 450 but didn't find any... I am stuck at max engineering a 450 and while I can keep making cata stuff at 450 and below I can't get any more skill ups in engineering so not sure if I will ever be able to get any of these...

Комментарий от nodoze

Test Post/Question: Are WoWhead & Thottbot merged where posts on each site show up on the other?

Комментарий от Daegranos

The pyro rocket was only useful for PvP (especially arena), and now that you can't use engineering tinkers in arena I'd say skip this one.

Комментарий от Vexus

This can crit and deals 50% more damage with the crit: test case 4686 normal, 6951 crit.
It is Nature Damage and can be increased with debuffs on your target: test case 5393 normal with Rogue 8% debuff.

Комментарий от UlarnekIronclaw

i was just wondering.. would this be better for a mage than say.. the Synapse Springs? for pvp of course, NOT pve

Комментарий от 251203

I've got 5 of the 8 tinkers now, and still lacking this one shamefully.

If I do get it, I'm adding it to this Orc/Hunter macro for extra umpffh:

/use Trinket
/cast Blood Fury
/use Gloves

Any character should add this to their 2m cooldown damage increasers :)

Комментарий от 755865

I just got this at 525, I had learned every other tinker and didn't want to craft anything because it seemed impossible. After doing heroics, I finally got the chaos orb roll I needed to win it. When I crafted the goggles I discovered this tinker. I posted SS but it might not be approved.

Комментарий от 755877

I just learned the last tinker off electrified ether, a grey, at 525. i have spent maybe 15kg easy last few weeks. shocker was my 16th tinker. it had to been hotfixed.

Комментарий от 573345

Learned it by making one electrified ether today, about time to fix it.

Комментарий от 253366

Just to confirm, I learned this today while already being capped at 525 for a little while.
I was making the Authentic Jr. Engineer Goggles to exchange it for the spirit Cogwheel gem, and luckily got it!

Комментарий от 26079

Effect: (45 yard range).

Комментарий от CycloneDuke

Engineering Tinkers -- bug and subsequent fix

There were 8 engineering tinkers introduced in Cata. Unlike most recipies they are not trained but a random chance to discover while you make any cata engineering item. However there was an issue where if you only knew 7 of the 8 when you hit max skill, you could not learn the 8th tinker.

Last night Blizz hotfixed in a solution:
Engineering
* All eight of the Engineering discoveries are now able to be learned through crafting the Overpowered Chicken Splitter at max-level Engineering.

If you are max engineering and only know 7 of the tinkers, craft this and you should learn the final one. Be wary as it won't teach you anything else if you already know all 8.
If you happen to hit max engineering and don't even know 7 of the 8 (and thereby need more than 1 to learn), crafting this item at max skill teaches you only one of the tinkers, not all of them remaining.

The 8 tinkers are:
Cardboard Assassin
Grounded Plasma Shield
Invisibility Field
Quickflip Deflection Plates
Spinal Healing Injectorp
Synapse Springs
Tazik Shocker
Z50 Mana Gulper

This is confirmed to be working and seems to have a 100% chance to teach you a tinker.

Комментарий от 670067

Does this tinker benefit from scaling of any stat? the tooltip on this page says 4320-5280 nature damage, whilst in-game my tooltip says 4449-5439. Any suggestions?

Комментарий от 760619

Just learned this at 444 engineering.as a level 70.

Also, for other 70-74 twinks out there, our good buddy Jeego found out this useful information (465 requires gnome race):

440-450 you can get 1
451-460 = 2
460-465 = 3

/ feels all warm and tingly inside having learned this first try!

Комментарий от 322008

"Major breakthrough!", or rather rather irrelevant, but interesting fact:
Seems to be doing full damage against last boss i Tol'Vir, Siamat, even in the start when he's buffed with damage taken reduced (Not sure how the buff works, but think it reduces damage taken by like 90%). Can confirm next time I do Tol'Vir, but I used the Tazik Shocker on my gloves a couple of seconds after the tank went in, and it had a 9k crit (probably wouldn't have noticed it if it didn't crit, but the crit popped up on my screen).

Комментарий от 311352

Tested as a hunter today.

The electrified ball has similar or same visual effect as lightening bolt. Since it deals natual damage, it is classified as a spell. That means even if a melee class has reach or exceed 8% hit cap, it still have a chance to miss. Also all effects that increase your damage or your spell damage will grant benefit to this. Such as spell power or even SUV hunter's mastery. Without further test, I can only assume this spell's crits rating is also works with spell crit, and it only crits 50% more damage rather than full 100%.

In my hunter's rotation, the damage of shocker is at the bottom of all skills. However, it will not trigger GCD and not in that either. Therefore, in this patch it is still a good idea to boost your dps.

Another thing I should mention, when I use Unsolvable Riddle, or I use the shocker, it will trigger a 10sec CD on each other. However, when I use Elementium Dragonling, the 10sec CD will not be triggered. So it may have shared CD with some paticular trinket.

Комментарий от 516041

learned while making goblin bbq (at green if it matters)

Комментарий от valarua

Sweet stuff, for warriors i would recommend the following macro:

#showtooltip Heroic Throw
/cast Heroic Throw
/use 10

Комментарий от Yoeki

Like previously mentioned above, is it possible to discover this at level 70 while being 450? I've seen alot of level 70 twinks running around with this, which is incredibly awesome. But I've spent 5000g on both Obsidium Bolts and Electrified Ether, and have not had a single discovery recipe discovered (except the intellect proc, which I gained at 326~ ish skill)

So my question is: Is it possible to discover anything while not being able to learn 450+ at level 70? It feels like you can only discover it while leveling..

Комментарий от Sraenn

so im putting together some hellish macros and i just noticed the tazzik causes the bolt gun to go on cooldown for 10sec. if youre trying to macro together the goblin racial rocket, this, and the bolt gun reticule, its not gonna happen.

i suppose its reasonable to macro the goblin racial and this together, since both have a 2min cd. this is critting for 8-10k for me, depending on the usual. goblin mage, decent but not great gear, got a volcano card though.

Комментарий от Verdice

45 yard range, 2 minute cooldown.

Комментарий от justlikethatqt

i am a level 70 twink trying to get this, i've leveled eng 1-465 (gnome) 4 times now and still havent gotten it :(

Комментарий от Sanryo

No one seems to have mentioned this, but is Tazik a company? Or maybe a person that first invented the shocker? It seems strange to have "Tazik shocker" when it could just be something general like "Electro Shocker"

Комментарий от Seref

I'm wondering if this crits for +100% on a DK, since they have Runic Focus

Комментарий от 749936

For those of you wondering, you can learn this tinker and any other Cataclysm tinker as early as 441-450 engineering skill. You need Cataclysm installed, but you do not have to be an Illustrious Grand Master. The chances of any one tinker being discovered are equal afaik. See the list below for exactly when the tinkers are discovered. If you extrapolate this out, you'll see when you'll learn them if you go on to Illustrious Grand Master.

Leveling as a non-gnome gives you one chance to discover a tinker (441-450 skill points)
Leveling as a gnome gives you another chance to discover a tinker (451-460 skill points)
Leveling as a gnome gives you yet another chance to discover a tinker (461-465 skill points)

Also: Any tinker can be "enchanted" onto an item and stay there even if you drop engineering. It will not work until you re-level , but the tinker will stay and even if you don't learn that specific one while leveling again, you will still be able to make use of it.

Last but not least: There is conflicting information about whether this item follows class spell mechanics such as Runic Focus for a DK, the Shatter talent on mages, and other talents/skills. AFAIK, the damage will be modified by any nature damage modifiers you may have, but I do not believe that it follows any class talents specifically. I could be wrong, but the limited testing I've done on my mage atleast shows that it doesnt follow Shatter's rules and shatter effects all spells you cast. Therefore, it's either not a spell (most likely) or is simply not affected by any modifiers.

Комментарий от 912058

For level 70 twinks. At 450 engineering you may get 1 of 8 tinkers. It is random and if you do not receive the one you are after you must re level it from 1. If you are a gnome you may learn 3 of 8 of these tinkers. The ability if effected by resilience.

Комментарий от Chocomember

Can you do it like a enchating just get an Engineer with Tazik Shocker and let is enchant it with it ?

Комментарий от Raithek

I was hoping for some changes concerning the way to obtain this tinker,
since i want it on a twink of mine. But as of 4.3.3 this is still the deal:

For characters at or below 70 at 450 engineering you may only get 1 of 8 tinkers.
It is random and if you do not receive the one you are after you would need to re level engineering from 1.
If you are a gnome you may learn 3 of 8 of these tinkers. At 525 enginerring you can learn all 8.

Also, i was trying out the damage on my main and i got those numbers:
~10k Crits
~5k Hits

It sure is an awesome tinker for the lvl70 bracket where this damage comes in handy.
But as for me, i guess i'll need to spend another 20k in order to re-level my engineering...

Комментарий от 922144

I got this at 456! I was lvl 70! super op, especially for rogue.

Комментарий от Noxheart

How so you get it. Ive heard its like 1/8 chanse you just get it when you ht 425, and 1/4 if you're gnome. Is this true?

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