Краткая информация

Изображения

Видео

Решил составить билд, ломал голову и сделал https://www.wowhead.com/cata/ru/talent#hbhbZcIhsRMhRho0h:qkmMrb Но в нём много лишних талов и как-то всё не состыковывается (ведь энх без одноручек - не энх)

Потом решил ради смеха сделать билд на элема и всё куда приятней! =) https://www.wowhead.com/cata/ru/talent#hGGhGofkzGo0hZbh:zomqsrV

-12% к получаемому магическому урону
-10% во время каста
-5% за счет сабжа
-20% на 15 сек раз в ~1,5-2 минуты
и +15% к получаемому хилу
НО мы теряем мега абилу энха , которая заменяется решимостью предков (-10% во время каста) и глифом покорения стихий. Критические ситуации переживать будем хуже, но всё остальное время - лучше

Впринципе, если мы будем перековывать элемовский т10, одевать трини, кольца, шею на танка и менять чанты и сокеты, то получится более менее танкообразное существо. Но хз что будет с агрой. Зато первый в мире рдд-танк =)) только чувствую бесполезный

А вот в пвп всё куда интересней.
Протовара, протопала и прочую дребедень узнает даже саронитовый валера и поймет, что таргет не айс, надо бить элема. И если наш протоэлем выйдет на передовую и начнёт откидывать всех вокруг и кастовать землетрясение, то большинство переключится на него. Так что протоэлем может быть юзабелен в примрейдах.
Но будут ли бить нашего элема с 50+к хп на баффах в которого едва проходит дамаг все остальные? Ведь любой хоть как-то соображающий игрок поймет, что это мишень

А валерам на бг безралично что происходит вокруг и бьют они ближайшего алика/урку, а тот же протовар/пал в разы живучее нашего протоэлема. Так что сия идея полный бред. Ждём клизмы, там туман рассеется на тему протошамы. (ведь бафф нам этот дали, а в инсты зайти как танк не предлагает)

Комментарий от Suicide777

вот ещё такой вопрос: на петов хантов агро абилки распространяются?

Комментарий от brutallord

варовский таунт распространяется, значит наверно и этот тоже

Appears as if as of 2.0.10, this ability simply does not work. If you currently have say, flametongue enchant on your weapon and you attempt to overwrite it with rockbiter, you will see the initial rockbiter animation and it will take mana but it will not go onto your weapon, either in effect, animation, or on the weapon's tooltip.

Комментарий от Hakunamatata

Unfortunately, all weapon enchancements cannot be used in conjunction with sharpening stones, weightstones, or magic weapon oils.

Комментарий от 195614

It's a shame that we're forced to throw this imbue away once we get windfury. I mean sure I never used it after I got windfury (unless I was tanking) but it was nice to have it there as an option. Blizzard could have made this the tanking imbue (again?).

Комментарий от Urbanmech

I do miss this enchant though. I loved the high white hits haha

Комментарий от 309858

Sigh, I remember this enchant back in the old days. Its old high threat component allowed me to tank UBRS back in vanilla wow.

As an oldschool shaman, I have to say RBW shall be missed. :(

Now how about making frostbrand useful?

Комментарий от 316511

Exactly what is this useful for? Does it have any use at all?

Most enha shamans use windfury. Maybe some mobs are immune to windfury damage and we should use this instead?

Edit: I don't understand why this question got rated down yet I got no reply ;//quote]

in reply: because a shaman wouldn't have windfury yet they would also use frost weapon or flame rockbiter is only usefull 1-10 after that most enha shammys reject this with good reason the dps bonus doesent match the dps you would get from frost or flame enchants

why it was downrated: idk why this was downrated its a perfectly sensible question maybye people missclicked

Комментарий от 222832

The legendary ability that allowed you to show off infront of other classet with your extra uber damage!

You wont be forgotten, Rockbiter!

Комментарий от 34578

I still remember early TBC when you could dual-wield rockbiter weapons for something like 1400 attack power extra.

R.I.P. Rockbiter.

Комментарий от 235552

you can,t aplly this buff to Mining Pick and Blacksmith Hammer.

Комментарий от Aerolite08

The removal of the higher ranks of this spell (and it's conversion from +AP to simply +DPS) is a bit odd, I'll give you that, but I'll at least hazard a guess. I'll mention that I was out for most of the BC expansion, and I really only started with Shaman in 3.0 (Level as Enhance to 75, then go Elemental and dual spec Resto, etc).

If I had to guess it would have something to do with the fact that Enhancement Shams (the primary users of this buff), as of patch 3.0.2, now gain AP at a 1:1 ratio from Agi and, with Mental Dexterity, from Int as well. This was part of the itemization and general stat structure changes in patches 3.0+ (Hit/Crit unification, spirit regen equalization across classes, spirit becoming a component of DPS with some classes) so that many classes could share gear of similar benefit, a big implication to loot tables from quests (across zones), dungeons, raids, etc. To Enhance Shams this meant both they and Hunters could make good use of Stam/Agi/Int gear.

Paladins, I think, are a great example relating to the new type of itemization. In BC many Pallies had some level of Int or SP across the entirety of their gear, whereas modern Pallies rarely use plate with either unless they're Holy. The reason being that now Pallies have a number of talents and abilities to assist with mana regen, meaning less reason to worry about mana pool size, and have talents that allow DPS'ers to gain SP equal to a percentage of their AP and tanks as a percentage of their Stam. This generally means that they can wear DPS or tanking gear and have adequate SP to assist them as well as having decent enough mana regen to use abilities despite often operating of near-base mana.

Anyway, back to my point, or guess. My guess is that with Shamans the designers felt they would already gain excellent bonuses of AP from using the same kind of gear they share with hunters, the kind that all begins with Stam/Agi/Int as a base. With that aside Shams were then given some changes to either existing weapon buffs that were used for some kind of effect, rather than just pure AP. Windfury was tweeked a few times, I think it has no cooldown now or something (don't really keep up to date on it) but it still gives nice raw AP when it goes off, at least to those extra hits.

Flametongue was given a SP component (while healers gained Earthliving) and given synergy with Lava Lash. Also given something of a boost was Frostbrand, gaining bonus damage as SP rises (similar to Flametongue, not sure if that was new with either though) and more utility (PvP, at least) with the addition of the Frozen Power talent. Right now it's handy until you have Flametongue but at a certain point, rather early on, Flametongue usually becomes a better choice, as its damage goes right through armor and its SP enhances you spell damage.

So yeah, if I had to guess about what was done with Rockbiter it was that designers wanted base AP to be okay without help from weapon buffs and to give the remaining weapon buffs some additional powers and synergies with other abilities. Also, I guess, by removing the endgame earth-type weapon buff they freed up room to add a healing-type one without doubling up on any one element.

Edit: Oh, and the 3.0.2 patch notes, around the same time all these changes occurred, also seem to state that Windfury was intended to succeed Rockbiter at 30+.

Комментарий от 476166

Use this against Hogger whenever possible, as it may be the best Shammy enchant in the universe during that fight. This also removes stealth from Tauren Rogues.

Комментарий от Slanter

According to MMO-Champion the Unleash Elements effect is a taunt. Do I detect a return of the possibility of shaman tanks?

Rockbiter Weapon:
Imbue the Shaman's weapon with the fury of the earth, increasing all threat generation by 30% and reducing damage taken by 5%. Lasts 30 minutes.
( Unleash Weapon : Unleashing this enchantment forces the target enemy to attack you for 5 sec. )
8% of base mana, Instant cast

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1124

EDIT:

Alas, my hopes die young.

Ghostcrawler

Shaman won't be a tanking class. The Rockbiter effect is for very situational uses, such as say an Enhancement shaman who wants to try and rescue a healer in a 5-player dungeon who has aggro.

Source

Комментарий от 175315

So, this means that shamans will be able to tank end-game?

Комментарий от 235310

In order for shammies to tank, they'd need to add a talent reducing our chance to be critically hit, since there will be no more Defense rating. This does open up possibilities though ( All tanks r ded! Quick enhance shammy, taunt him so we can kill him!)

Комментарий от snyper256

I would use this for Elemental kiting. Maybe there will be a new caster-tanking fight!

Комментарий от arano101

A better situational use will be to add effect to unleash weapon a 6% crit chance reduction for around 30 seconds. This would give us opportunity to finish the boss off but would not give a huge survivability cd in pvp.

Комментарий от 476166

With this on, the already-high-threat frost shock will be able to pull a mob off of a healer, no sweat, so I bet it'll work as intended.

Shaman will still be unable to tank (not that I mind), but this will definitely come in handy. Let's say the tank has to go AFK and your group wants to make a few pulls; if the healer is good and the Shaman is geared, the Shaman could slap this on and substitute, combining this with magma totem/fire nova/frost shock (and, in case of emergencies, Earth Elemental).

Комментарий от 651520

I've tanked up through lvl 25 instances on my draenei shaman without much problem at all back in BC. Just use stoneclaw as an AoE OT and take the main enemy yourself. But low level tanking with this ability is out of the question since wow-head has it listed as a lvl 75?

Комментарий от Sujezz

This will be extremaly usefull in arenas, shield + this on weap will make us more resistant to burst. But wasting a gcd to switch weapon/imbue for ft/el might not be good idea. We won't know which option would be better till cata hits live.

Комментарий от OptimusJ

Surely the tank would be saving the healer, and not the shaman? >.<

That GC statement really doesn't seem to make ANY sense.
"Oh look, instead of wasting cooldowns and excessive mana healing myself, I'm wasting cooldowns and excessive mana healing another player than the tank."
Yeah, right...

Комментарий от 109740

Basically, 4.0.1 has changed rockbiter from the imbue people only used when it was the only option into the imbue people use when they want to grief the tank.

Комментарий от Ilsor

Threat increase? damage taken reduction? Oooh, I foresee shaman tanks.

Комментарий от 681365

does it stack? if so, dualwielding enhancement tanks with a lot of dodge?

Комментарий от 126853

Two notes about this being "useful" as a taunt, which is crap at best.

First, it takes a global cooldown to enchant rockbiter on your weapon.

Second, you have to hope Unleash Elements isn't on cooldown. As Enhancement, the one real spec that'd use this, I can assure you it will always be on cooldown.

Why do I say enhancement would be the only real spec using the taunt?

Simple: If you're a resto shaman, you'd never taunt, you'd just heal the person ( in this case, the other healer ) in a dungeon/raid. If you're elemental, you're either going to push the monster away with thunderstorm if you're close to the healer, DPS the monster at range, or heal the healer.

Or you know, any spec can hex it if it's the correct type.

It'd make a hell of a lot more sense to enhancement shamans an actual taunt deep in the tree but with a a decent cooldown to prevent them from trying to actually tank. Have Shamanistic Rage or Feral Spirit graint it.

Feral Spirit 12% of base mana 30 yd range
Instant cast 2 min cooldown

Summons two Spirit Wolves under the command of the Shaman, lasting 30 sec. Also grants the the Shaman the ability to ( however you want to justify it, incite rage at the target, howl like a wolf, etc ) forcing a single target to attack the shaman for 5 seconds. 2 minute cooldown.

Комментарий от Mitholid

Why does everyone think that Enhancement will tank? I think that blizzard would like to permit to another class (other than Warlock) to range-tanking some kind of boss.
So it will be likely Elemental Shamans the ones who will be able to tank bosses that inflict magic damage, and Ancestral Resolve + Elemental Warding will be a great help
Edit: Fixed links and grammar errors

Комментарий от Barwick

It's a shame that the "jack of all trades" is unable to tank, except at the low levels. "they are the only real "hybrid" class in World of Warcraft" I know that statement is old, but the real hybrid classes are paladins and druids, being the only two classes that can dps, heal and tank.
Give Shaman's something like Fire Shield deep into Enhancement and let them go. Would be interesting to see another non-shield using tank, opting to dual-wield and parry instead.

Комментарий от 305137

i was going to post what i thought but i think ill just say i agree with Gandazar instead. To save a healer you would be way better off just hiting it than tryin to do all this klunky stuff.

Комментарий от 408002

I think this would be useful for tanking low-level dungeons as a shaman if we were able to queue as a tank in randoms or other situations since healers would probably be able to handle the slight armor difference at that level, but I think it would be a little too late for that since it's a level 75 learned spell

Комментарий от 716141

PvP? Would this mean additional damage reduction vs. players? I'm sure it does. My PvP spec has 1400 res, which is nearly 50%... but 60% would be a helluva boost. And the coolest thing about shaman weapon buffs is that they arent on cooldown; so we can switch back and forth... windfury and flametongue when we need more dps, rockbiter/frostbrand on defense.

Комментарий от orloxgr

And the mob 2 shotted me :P

Комментарий от 150306

tanking lowbie instances doesn't really take much, I've leveled 1-60 a warlock and priest after random dungeon finder, and both tanked them, the warlock all the way to BRD. The dimwits who queue as tanks have no idea where to go, no idea how to hold threat, are more often than not geared and spec'd in such a way that they take more damage than a rogue. Nobody needs new abilities to tank lowbie instances, doing so is already a joke. The only way anyone will use this ability is if blizz designs encounters that FORCE us to do so (frequent adds that will attack a healer unless taunted, too many of them for just tanks to taunt), aka a gimmick encounter. We'd really love some more of those blizz!

Комментарий от PapaDC93

Um what is the point of a shaman having something that generates alot of threat?

Комментарий от 83450

A very good use I've discovered for this imbue combined with UL is that while 2 manning all of the old TBC raids with an Enh shaman buddy of mine (I'm prot pally) he would very often taunt bosses off of me long enough to let some harmful stacking debuff drop off of me, or taunt and pop ghost wolf and kite the boss as far from me as possible to allow me to get some healing in.

This got me thinking...

In a "real world" scenario (ie: current content) I agree with some above posters who are saying this is the perfect kiting utility for shaman. Not only do they get 30% increased threat gen with rockbiter on but frost shock still has the high threat component. The two in tandem should pump out enough threat to kite just about anything without losing aggro.

Комментарий от 567714

i'm thinkin as a resto shammy you might be able to clutch a wipe with this.
ofcourse it would have to be like 1-2 mobs at most but i think its doable :D

Комментарий от 502471

I have a feeling the next ranged tanking encounter is going to require a shammy. TBC was mages and locks.

Комментарий от 161783

People seem to be under the assumption that this only applies to Enhancement, but in reality it is probably much more useful as a kiting tool for an Elemental Shammy. I would say this isn't meant to be applied mid-fight, but more as a fight mechnic tool to be sorted out pre-pull for a very specific reason. I think it was possibly Blizz's attempt at introducing alternative tactics but was looked over by most who still opt for more "traditional" tactics. There are plenty of other spells and attacks that classes got for Cata that seem to have very Niche roles and don't see all that useful in the vast majority of fight situations.

While another tanking class would clearly be a good thing given the shortage of them for randoms right now, it would require a "Spirit-Bear" or Stone-skin buff transformation which grants the 6% crit imunity and a touch more armour and health. Oh and some more defensive cooldowns. A fair bit of new implementation and work and Blizz have enough on their plate balancing the classes they already have in game (and having this available would make a very good PvP class OP and so damage would drop - and who would want to see that - it happened to Kitties where they now struggle to compete in PvE at the top end).

Комментарий от ilikain

Does anyone know if the 5% damage reduction stacks if you have this enchanted on both weapons as enhancement?

Комментарий от Fulgorater

with this, couldn't the tanks + shaman (2+) in a raid play ping pong with a boss? such as with Chim during final phase?

Комментарий от 287123

As far as usefulness, I can attest to having used it the very next dungeon after reading the preceding posts. While in Gundrak the tank decided it would be nice to ditch at the start of the Drakkari Colossus / Elemental fight. I quickly turned this on and, thanks to a good healer, managed to maintain aggro to successfully beat the boss without any deaths at level 76.

I think it would serve the class well to lower the level to attain this spell. If they want us to use it as a situational spell then we should have the time to get used to judging those situations...and maybe it could be talented to a lessened gcd. Otherwise I feel it is currently only really useful in situations were it's anticipated that you have rockbiter on for at least a little while.

Комментарий от john1459

If you think they should lower the level requirement of this, you need to PUG more lower level dungeons. Most new players don't have a clue about in-depth mechanics, they'll see this as 5% reduction and keep it always imbued and think they're so pro for pulling threat constantly but have no clue why.

Комментарий от Battlebob

I've tanked the lvl's 75-78 when a tank rage quits/DC's/ or whatever. Works fine in conjuction with frost shock...

Комментарий от 878107

I have a level 85 enhancement shaman, and I was oldschool. when I saw the threat generation and damage reduction buff you got from this enchant, I had to try it out. I made my own set of PvE tanking shaman gear(reforge into parry/dodge), I ended up having a not-too-bad set. I tried it out in a regular 85 dungeon(Lost city of Tol'vir) and I just couldn't keep threat. healer said I was a breeze to heal, but my dps wasn't high enough to hold on either AoE or single target pulls. I hit about 5k dps and the Spriest that was pulling off of me was at about 15k. I think that we shaman are just not meant to tank. take it from the one that has tried and failed.

however, if any of you think you could have a solution to this threat problem, I am still willing to try it out. I'd love to show up to raid and select TANK for my role when our off tank doesn't show.

and if you'd like to see my set, It'll be up on the wow armory. character is Kyatar on Stonemaul, horde US

Комментарий от Ordayc

Rockbiter Weapon's damage mitigation does stack with itself. Since it stacks multiplicatively, having two Rockbiter effects active reduces damage taken by 9.75%.

Комментарий от 637839

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/218237-rockbiter-weapon/

2x rock biter = 10% less damage.

Love,
PvP guy.

Комментарий от Thottbot

its ok, good when fightting a mob. that is higher than you, because it has a elemental attack and a regualar attack

Комментарий от Thottbot

Not as good now as it used to be. But actually very useful if you're running a low-level through an instance, or if your armor happens to be good enough to tank.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Im really sad that they changed rockbiter from a large boost in attack power to dealing extra dmg every attack. This seriously makes flametounge pointless in allsituations execpt not wanting to be the tank in a group since

-rock deals more dmg

-rock cannot be resisted since its not elemental dmg

-rock also increases agro to u leting u tank

....they should really change rockbiter back to +attack power having 2 +dmg on swings enchants are pointless

Комментарий от Thottbot

What if you are dual weilding through the talents as a shamman? can you put the temporarry wepon enchants on both wepons of just the main one?

Комментарий от Thottbot

If you dual wield you can enchant both weapons, MH and Offhand

Комментарий от Thottbot

If you're dual wielding something that was a fast attack speed (if your dual wielding) i advise Rockbiter. For something that attacks slow (again dual wielding) i adivse Windufury (which you get at lvl 30.

Blizzard always seems to be changing Rockbiter..

Комментарий от Thottbot

they do

Комментарий от Thottbot

On my 45 Shammy, I'm dual wielding with WF on my MH and Frostbrand on my OH. I tried to put Rockbiter on any of them...no dice. I got rid of my WF and FB and I could only get Rockbiter on my MH. Is there something i'm missing?

Комментарий от Thottbot

im thinking enhancement for damage but not dual weilding. i think i willl use a 2h axe or mace.

What should i use?

Комментарий от Thottbot

If your going enchantment shaman, for melee dps, what you really want is like attack power, crit chance, and spell damage, and of course stamina and intellect.

How you get that is up to you, however it turns out that a lot of hunters have

+ mana or intellect
+ attack power
+ agility
+ stamina

so, if your an enchantment shaman, you may want to steal some hunter gear lol

Crit chance = more dps, more chance to crit, more chance to do better damage.

Attack power = more base damage, and should be augmented with spell damage, always.

Stamina = more health, if your doing damage, your going to attract aggro, and your goign ot need to be able to live :P

Intellect = more spell damage, frost shock, earth shock, good stuff like that, and being able to heal yourself

Now, it's about combining that. But that's obvious- stamina and intellect is always good, crit chance is good, and of course without attack power what's the use of using weapons?

The real question in hand is duel wielding or not.

Well, let's say you use an axe that does 80 dps. From a regular stand point, two would do 160 dps. But since you have weaker off-hand, you would only do about 120 dps.

A two-handed axe would do about the same, if it was equal.

But that's warrior talk.

Your a shaman. What you want to do is to imbue your weapon with power.

All in all, duel wielding is better.

Let's look at this, imagine adding rock biter to your weapon. You would add 62 dps. A two-handed axe would do 182 dps.

Pretty good, but now look at a duel wielding axe. You add 93 dps, your first weapon 62, and your second 31.

So duel wielding is better at that point. Now, this is what makes duel wielding AMAZING.

Imagine getting two REALLY slow weapons, say a 2.6 axe and another. Now, you have 208 on one axe, and 100 on another. However, considering the axe, you problably have about 300 on one and 150 on another. That's 450 damage. Now let's say you have an axe at 3.6 speed and 120 dps, thats 432 damage, or about 480 a swing, but the dps is about the same.

Now imagine this, add windfury to this. The axe will proc and do about 1200 damage. Pretty good.

But now TWO axes proc. You do 900 damage plus TWO 270's extra, meanign that you do 1440 damage. If you add spell damage, it will DOUBLE and produce twice as much spell damage. With duel wielding you can optimize the extra 270+ damage you get, and you can put two buffs on a weapon that is designed to be good for a good weapon, making you get an AMAZING buff on two.

Oh well... if you want to know more, ask me, or go into a shaman thread lol

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I've heard that the effects of Rockbiter still work in Ghost wolf form, does anyone know if this is true?

Ссылки

Оружие камнедробителя

Оружие камнедробителя
8% от базовой мана
Мгновенное действие

Усиливает оружие шамана яростью земли, повышая создаваемую угрозу на 30% и снижая получаемый урон на 5%. Время действия – 30 мин.

Высвободить чары стихий
Высвобождение этих чар заставляет противника атаковать вас в течение 5 sec

Свойства заклинания

Длительность

нет

Школа

Природа

Механика

нет

Тип рассеивания

нет

Категория ГКД

Обычный

Стоимость

8% от базовой мана

Радиус действия

0 метров (Self)

Время прочтения

Мгновенное действие

Восстановление

нет

ГКД

1.5 сек.

Эффект #1

Dummy
Значение: 2
Радиус действия: 1 метров
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
Скрипт, выполняемый на стороне сервера

Эффект #2

Enchant Item - Temporary: Камнедробитель (3021)
Значение: 1801
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Метки

[Held Item Only]
Не может быть использовано в облике друида
[Do Not Sheath]
[No Skill Increase]
[No AutoCast (AI)]
[Allow Low Level Buff]

Оружие камнедробителя

Аура

Свойства заклинания

Дополнительная информация

Внести вклад