I would suggest every 2hander who wants to DPS to get this as a base item. It works all the way through MC and into BWL and is better than anything you'll find in 5 man zones. Since there are unlimited The Unstoppable Forces for sale, every class that can equip it and queue for AV can get one.

You must be AV exalted.

**If you're a warrior, can purchase this, and don't have a shield PLEASE buy
The Immovable Object
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=19321

It's a dandy shield for PvP and light PvE.

Комментарий от 7989

This is much cheaper than the Field Marshal/High Warlord 2H weapons, at 45000 honor points and 40 AV marks, but does 16 dps less. The proc is something that they don't have though.

Комментарий от 8491

This weapon is very good for SoC pallys. Especially with the 2.0 patch, Ive been crit'ing for 1200-1300 and im only in teir 0. I also have the crusader enchant on it. I love this thing.

Комментарий от Hansol

Most druids favor this item because of the +str and +stam, the only thing druids cannot get from this is the Chance on hit: 1 Second stun, Only in moonkin and human form hitting with this weapon it would be able to stun. The chance to crit is also very nice.

Комментарий от 9156

This weapon is a perfect two hander for paladins who just reached 60. Its far from the best 2-handed mace a Pally could get but it proves very efficient both in combat and in its cost compared to other such items

This weapon will especially help Paladins who have seal of command. With its slow attack speed it causes SoC to proc more per minute belive it or not than faster weapons. plus the 2% crit increase never hurts any class.

Комментарий от Vexikuri

I was thinking of getting this to replace an Arcanite Reaper. Sugeestions? Good idea or bad?

Комментарий от 7293

Hehe, got get it Tiger, but read above: HWL weapons are not much harder to get these days, and are generally far better.

Комментарий от Tsarnkoth

It's a good weapon to get while preparing to grind the honor for an HWL weapon: you can make 7000 honor in a single day on AV weekend, get it, and then spend a week or two grinding honor for the HWL gear. Damage is good, comparable to MC weapons, the stun combines well with warrior mace spec for PvP and it's a surprisingly underrated weapon for PvE grinding, especially on stunnable mobs.

Комментарий от 10300

This costs 25 AV marks as of patch 2.0.1.

Комментарий от Vexikuri

No, I believe it's like 6-7k of honor as well.

Комментарий от 11253

Awesome PvP weapon, and its proc goes well with the warrior mace spec talent. Though not as good as the HWL/GM weapons, its honor is a fraction of the cost. Good weapon to pick up while farming your GM/HWL, and can make PvP'ing a lot easier.

Комментарий от Nerizor

the stun effect, do they proc in cat / bear form with druid?

Комментарий от 30584

Name is a reference to the philosophic question "What would happen if an unstoppable force would hit an immovable object?"

Комментарий от 46488

its the mace good for a Druid feral?

Комментарий от butters

Not for druids since you can't use "Chance on Hit" in a feral form.

Комментарий от 45315

TBC upgrade: https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25402

Комментарий от 68508

I wonder what will happen when, "The Unstoppable Force" and, "The Immovable Object" are wielded at the same time?

Комментарий от 77438

this is the beast that had slain the arcanite reaper. i turned a month or so of farming arcanite into a month of grinding harpies in AV.

Комментарий от 40551

This isn't really worth getting anymore. You can get the Rage Reaver as early as 58 now in Outland, which is quite comparable to this. Once hitting 60, Outland greens easily acquired on the auction can outdo this weapon!

Комментарий от 28469

For everybody who still doesn't understand;

SoC's damage DOES NOT change with speed (as long as the DPS of 2 weapons you compare is the same) the faster it is, the more often it will proc, and the less damage it will do.

However, as most retribution paladins have crusader strike (and arms warriors with mortal strike and enhancement shamans with stormstrike) this will be good for all 3 builds. The reason is that those 3 strikes are based on the damage per hit, not per second, so if you have 2 weapons of the same DPS, and one hits slower, and you use crusader/mortal/stormstrike you will want the slower weapon, as it does more damage per hit which increases the damage of those abilities.

Also, this is good for enhancement shamans, as they will almost invariably use windfury, and this is slower than 3 seconds (though gets down to 2.66 with flurry up) which will maximize your damage as far as it can go (unless you can find a weapon even slower)

I really do miss the days when I could run around with a pig's head on a stick and kill them in 1 second 20% of the time... /sigh

Комментарий от 82368

I think it looks like a pig on a stick.

Комментарий от BattleTide

anyone ever notice that the head of this mace looks like a boars head???

Комментарий от 112330

hehe this is funny, look this item https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25402 its kind a funny

Комментарий от 136306

theres a new 2H mace that is called "the stoppable force" :P

came in new patch (its white)!!!

Комментарий от Vonriel

Thoughts on how this compares to Hellreaver? (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=24044 )

Комментарий от 155212

For a warrior at 60 which weapon would be better, the Grand Marshal/High Warlord weapon or this?

Комментарий от Amok

Anyone else catch the Joker's reference in the dark knight to the age old question?

"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immoveable object".

I hope I'm not the only nerd who picked up on it as that would be rather dissappointing at how pathetic I am.

Amok - Nazjatar

Комментарий от 134700

stun can proc off of special moves, i used this lvl 60-68 on my paladin and ive had it stun 4 mobs at once with DS. is it likely? no, can it happen? yes. legit mace, get it for a quick good mace if ur gonna lvl.
-meeck

Комментарий от 163837

Good lord, after all this time I have just noticed that the model for Unstoppable Force is actually a boar head on a stick. 0_0

Комментарий от 158339

What happens when https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=19321 blocks this mace?

Chuck Norris materialises and gives you 200,000g.
Then he owns you and takes back his 200k.
Then Saurfang walks by, owns Chuck, and steals the 200k.
Whatever happens, Saurfang gets 200k gold.

Комментарий от 195274

This is a reference to "The Dark Knight" when Batman catches the Joker, the Joker says "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object."

Комментарий от 276811

Do enchants show on this? Wanting to get mongoose on it, for the looks

Комментарий от 299915

One GM responded to the Unstoppable Force vs Immovable Object question with "The last person to try that was a gnome, and he was never heard from again. I highly encourage you to experiment to see for yourself. Do it for science!"

Комментарий от 309052

Oh. My. GOD!

warriors can Wield this and the Unmovable object at the same time!

Комментарий от goblinego

This + Arcanite reaper on lvl 60 fury warrior makes two,to become one.....

Комментарий от 317120

This vs Immovable Object = BURNT ON CHEESE

Комментарий от 279059

Imagine if someone got that and the imovable object and the with titans grip used them at the same time(although it has no practical use it would rock just seeing it)

Комментарий от torell95secto

im geting on my pally altho the dps does not = those of bc quest this is SLOW 3rd slowest speed in the game and the stun if soc and u can keybind or ur a supper clicker lol u can get it to be auto crit even if not becuz 1 sec stuns r hard to click or even keybind at that the stun will help sum and the crit is 2 % at 60 witch is rly good
edit: what i meant by soc is judgments crit if stun

Комментарий от 205761

Interesting... The Unstoppable Force and Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros can be dual wielded by fury warriors.

Комментарий от 444982

there is another game called dragonfable that has a weapon called The Unstoppable Farce. this weapon is also obtained by PvP and it has a pig at the end of it... just like the one in WoW has a pig head at the end.

Комментарий от 236655

would this b a good wep for my fury warrior to dual wield with the bg axe( the one from org) plz respond!

Комментарий от Moethetroll

THE hunter weapon. just look: its got a boar, your pet on your polearm. and it has strength. win win for huntards

Комментарий от omer681

I asked a GM about what will happen if The Unstoppable Force hits / pulls The Immovable Object. His answer was 42.

"Greetings _______,
You are reciving this mail in response to the help petition which you submitted regarding the Unstoppable Force versus Immovable Object problem.
We have investigated this issue, and the answer is 42."

Комментарий от 385742

Unstoppable huh...
So i'm thinking, If the Unstoppable force gets swung, does it just keep moving around?
Cus then you'd be pretty dizzy after that Bladestorm o_0

Комментарий от 464789

It's not "slower the weapon the better".

It's "the higher the peak end the better".

Get. It. Right.

Not always true. As a shaman you want a slow, slow, SLOOOOOooooooooooooww weapon just because your windfury hits will hit ALOT harder.

That's because:

WindfuryDamage = (<Avg Weapon damage>+(AP+WF increased AP)/14*<Base Weapon Speed>)*110% *140%

Average weapon damage = Minimal damage+Maximal damage / 2
Increased windfury AP = determined by spellrank/level
14 ap = 1 damage per second (so a 3,0 weapon speed gains 3 damage per 14 ap)
The last " 110% " is https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=29086 which every selfrepecting Enh shaman has
The last " 140% " is https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=29080 which i assume every Enhancement Shaman has

So a 75 dps 2.8 speed weapon can easily knock a 100 dps 1.4 speed weapon off of it's throne.

Комментарий от 430790

So, what would happen if you had two fury warriors, one with the stoppable force and the unmoveable object, against the other war that was using the unstoppable force and the moveable object?

Комментарий от 498997

Комментарий от Hyperlynx

Proof that Blizzard itemization in vanilla wasn't all bad.

Комментарий от Magmarrax

What happens if a melee from this gets blocked?

Комментарий от 438846

Titan's fury, anyone? Wielding this and the Immovable Force.

Комментарий от 714348

This mace reminds me Thottbot..

Back those days, TuF was THE weapon and Thottbot was THE website.

Now both forgotten..

Комментарий от 777228

LOL they have a Stoppable Force as well just picked it up

Комментарий от 608743

Well what happens if the Corrupted Ashbringer dodges the "Uncorrupted" Ashbringer..? ;dd

Комментарий от 512599

what happens when the unstoppable force and the immovable object hit ? The universe created dodge

Комментарий от foxbuster

This recalled an old anime I watched when I was very young. If I'm correct, the anime is dated from late 80's.

Got this, english dubbed just for your leisure. From this link's starting point, watch for the next 2 minutes.

Комментарий от 356077

looked at that mace for close to 6-7 years and I just now have put together in my head that the end of that thing is a Boar with tusks: Mind = Blown

Комментарий от skykid

A rather worthy item for transmog these days. Suits Death Knights pretty well with the spikes and the black power aura, and it's a cinch to get.

Комментарий от mrfixit110

What happens when Непреодолимая сила meets Недвижимый объект?

Answer: Взрыв

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yea but some people dont have the time to be in a raiding guild. Average people dont live for these games, we got a life too. This is a good choice for slowplayers that can work up their rep when they have the time for it. And its good for pvp, high dmg and stun proc, 2 crit aint bad.

Комментарий от Thottbot

well i just blew all my dkp on a ring in ZG...was thinking i might as well pick it up while i had the chance :P.
and we dont go there all that often :D

Being a warrior i just picked up TuF myself a couple of hours ago...the stun seems to be pretty good in PvP..

2 the person who called arcanite reaper a noob weapon: yeah i bet your one of the persons who claims IBS is just as good to? ^^.

Комментарий от Thottbot

So i'm a 60 Orc warlock, and i have this Warrior at 1/4 health about 10 feet from me, i'm casting a shadowbolt, when nightfall procs, meaning 2 shadowbolts at once! .1 second away from the shadowbolts going off he Charges, i resist the charge stun (orc)! but the Weapon procs and stuns me, giving him enough time to execute me.

The Unstoppable Force saves lives!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Okay, so here are some notes about this weapon.

First, for Paladins that use SoC -- this is a profound weapon for that talent. I was doing good kill stats with Twig of the World Tree but this made it insane. I went from having to rely a lot on JoC... to kill shotting people with default white damage and SoC in no time. The crit bonus, extra dps, and slower speed really make a difference.

AV Grinding -- this took me two weeks, playing "casual", a few hours a night. This is about the same it took most people I have talked to. Some have grinded it out in 48 hour gaming marathon stretches. It really isn't hard. And, on my server, alliance lost 95% of the games.

Getting the Gold -- I did this in a couple of days without a gathering talent, any gold in the bank, and without a guild. Grinded SM, grinded higher level humanoids, played the markets -- the last of which is how I made the vast majority of my money.

As many have stated, it really is an easy weapon to get. For PVP warriors or Paladins it really is a nice one.

On Price -- it is always 125 plus whatever silver. This is because of the Exalted price reduction bonus you get to all goods from the vendor.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm on a new server - Aerie Peak, so having a weapon of this quality really shows. That being said, look at the stats, it is a sick weapon for any age of a server, especially until you get far into ZG and MC.

At first I was leery about mace spec, since I lose so much crit going from IBS and polearm spec. But it is not a big deal. Plus, between mace spec and the proc here, it makes up for it (in PvP at least). Everyone hates stuns in PvP. If you stun someone with this, you will usually have time for another swing or maybe even an MS and a swing. I'll take that over a 5% more crit chance.

Now, with the new rep, it is extremely easy to get exaulted versus before. Matches should take between 20 min - 2 hours max. Just make sure your team takes some objectives and kills some opposing facton. If you are winning quickly, you could possibly do it in one weekend. I managed in 2 weeks because horde mysteriously started destroying us, just like we did to them the previous week. If your side isn't doing well, do turnins, convince a small group to ninja towers/gys and whatever. Every point helps.

Edit: Yeah, wait for double honor/rep weekend to really grind this rep. That will make all the difference.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This weapon looks like a pig's head xD

Комментарий от Thottbot

What happens when The Unstoppable Force hits the shield called The Unmovable Object?

Ill tell you

A vortex opens up and swallows up the world.

Please if you have this weapon dont fight anyone with that shield, for you shall be the death to us all

And you wont get the honor for it

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yes, even after a couple of patches later, even after aq20, aq40 and zul gurrub was introduced, there was TuF. It gets the job done. I've killed so many zin rok, untamed blade, and even smoked this ashkandi war twice, with a tuf in my hands. If you're a melee hit up av as soon as you can to get it. Once you get your tuf, upgrade all your armor slots before upgrading your weapon, you can get alot out of this with solid gear. Slap a crusader enchant on it, and see how high of an ms crit you can get with it :D

Комментарий от Thottbot

all weapon "procs" DO NOT word in feral forms, i have a 60 feral druid myself, and ive tested it. BUT, trinkets such as darkmoon card: maelstrom, and heroism, do proc in feral forms, ive found them to be also quite useful in bearform swipes, because it can proc off of each hit. so basically when your looking for a weapon as a feral druid, you just want to get weapons with nice stats, like crit and agility etc. the unstoppable force is still a very nice feral druid weapon, i use it.

Комментарий от Thottbot

So as a Pally that loves +spell damage (I imagine Shammies can find themselves in this situation too), I was thinking of getting a +30 spell dmg on it. The point being, that while there is a great weapon for that, the Fist of Cenarius, the +2% spell crit really doesn't help me. As a pally I must resort to raw melee damage more often than shammies or caster druids, and the SoC proc is a physical attack, so +spell crit won't work there. The SoC hit will, however benefit from +spell damage making for a damage increase there and on the judgements (as well as holy shock and consecrations).

So it's kind of a compromise, the crusader is nice and all, and +25 agility may add burst damage, but for PvP I use elemental sharpening stones. A TuF with +spell damage would kinda make it a Grand Marshal's Demolisher for kids, boosting my damage all round with consecration, holy shock, judgements, SoC hits and hammer of wrath.

And before you say it, yes, SoC hits (not judgements) gain from +spell damage. What? The SoC hit does 70% weapon damage, and you never noticed your SoC hits making more holy than white damage on a target with less than 30% damage reduction?
Check:
Spell Damage Coefficients

So ... comments?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Execute has nothing to do with wep damage. Btw this mace rocks! 60 warrior, and i use it over OEB unless raiding, need that +8 swords for 63 elites

Комментарий от Thottbot

DRUIDS: no procs do NOT work in cat or bear form

Комментарий от Thottbot

Can you still get all of the exalted gear without actually being exalted now?

Комментарий от Thottbot

well the weapon lasted me until lv 62-63 or something like that, the only thing comparable is hellreaver "i think thats wut its called" but it ne ver dropped for me, i would suggest getting a +9 wep damage on it and just wait for something to drop, i am a warrior btw , good luck on your desicion

Комментарий от Thottbot

Does this cost money at all or just honor and medals?

Комментарий от Thottbot

dangitt i wish i got wow before tbc so i could actually get this and not worry about there being sumthing better cause this thing PWNZ

Комментарий от Thottbot

This force was finally stopped on January 16, 2007, the release of The Burning Crusade. RIP

Комментарий от Thottbot

Swine on a stick.

Комментарий от Thottbot

this thing helped my shammy out so much in old AV... storm strikes... earth shocks... smashing clothies... ima miss it..

WHOA!...

look at these masterhammersmith items!

$%^& this hammer!

Комментарий от Thottbot

The The Stoppable Force is better

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok Lets get this straight, This weap was pretty kick ass before BC if all you wanted to do was do a lil bit of PvP before you start raiding for new weaps armor, Etc. But if you were just going to do pvp and not go raiding (PvP realm) you definatley dont want this, Just get Ice Barbed Spear and grind up enough honor and Marks for one of the Various eppic weapons from Hall of Legends.

BUT this has all changed thanks to BC, No you can find lvl 63 Blue 1H Weaps with higher dps. TBH just dont bother getting this weapon anymore. I dont think ive seen anyone with it since Christmas ^^

h yeah almsot forgot... for the Horde... *Hangs head in supreme Shame*

Комментарий от Thottbot

But then I might just put Crusader on it......considering it's like 200g cheaper. lol So it's either Crusader or Savagry for me. :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

it's a nice weapon to have well doing AV to get epic set, the honor and marks takes only about 6hrs total to get (u'll have to wait till next day for rollover : /

Комментарий от Thottbot

had this for my lvl 60 shammy when i went to outlands to test i was doing crits like crazy...1000 each..but sadly since i moved to resto i miss it..EG its rotting in my bank

Комментарий от Thottbot

yeah it has been rotting in my shaman's bank from back in the lvl 60 pvp days, was reminded i had it on me when i picked up 'The stoppable force' (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25402/преодолимая-сила) hehe.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The stoppable force can drop in outland x)
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=25402/преодолимая-сила

Комментарий от Allakhazam

That is what I call a GREAT warrior weapon, but shamans and palladins know how to handle it too ! I would like to see the knockback, I hope it's like the one the Ogres do in the Burning Steppes. Would be VERY cool if you are fighting on high grounds with this weapon, just knock them all the way down ! :D
I heard you could buy this weapon from the pvp vendor in Alteric when you get Exalted, but I cannot confirm nor deny it..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I am curious how big the 1.7 nerf on this will be as I only got it a few days ago. If the stun is on the same diminished returns timer as the warrior's or paladin's stuns, then this weapon will be disenchant material. I hope it isn't the case though, but I expect the worse from Blizzard. :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

well now its stoppable force lol

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Alright...I am trying to get exalted every day pretty much and i am only honored to show for it. I was wondering about how long does it take to get Exalted with Stormpike?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How long obviuosly depends on how much u play per day. Every time u win AV, I would guess u get around 1200 rep. Once u get revered (forget how much rep for it), exhaulted is another 21,000 rep. So, doing the math, once you hit revered, it will take an additional 20 runs of AV assuming you win everyone.

I finally got exhaulted and picked up this bad boy last night. It rocks. Unfortunately, I had 3,000 rep to go when 1.10 was installed. Took me 2 weeks after that to gt the last 3,000. Man was I pissed. As hoard, we used to always win AV. After 1.10, we rarely won.

Couple of clues, turn in all the drops you can. GL

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I was just staring at the ugly graphic (Great mace, $%^&ty graphic), and I noticed something that more or less ruined the weapon entirely for me...

Is it supposed to look like a wild boar? X_X (Pig with tusks for the slower kids.)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Its not really ruining the game, exhalted isn't the easiest feat.

The only awsome part is the knockback, but thats more impressive in pvp. PVP reward for PVP work sounds right to me. Not even close to, say, the 85dps sulfurus weapon for instances.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well....when 1.9 comes this wepon could be handy for my Paladin build...since Judge of Command now gives dmg every time you hit them, it will give more dmg if u stun the enemy....plus it got str and sta....perfect wepon for me.

Added the forum where my paladin build for 1.9 is there. Comment it if you wan...i like to hear what you think about it....there is always something new to learn everyday in this life...after all the best teacher is life itself :)

Паладин

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i never knew you coiuld buy it, i always thougth it was some drop form an End Gaem instnce, wow better start lvling and gettin rep...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I still wonder why this weapon looks like a warthog.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if u saw the knigth of the zodiac or whatever it name in ur country,is a manga film about just that,knigth of the zodiac,one of then got the harder fist and the harder shield and looks like invencible,we can compare it to the unstoppable and immovable,well what happends if they bot meet in a hit? well imo the legend explained in this chapter i confirmed is a true legend in japan,and OMFG stop think the weapon broke the shield noobs,BOTH items get destroyed thats all,so better be in peace and all will be fine

btw AV rep farm is stupid and slow,u need be a ludopat to get any good thing in the game,i was myself and now after teasted again real life i must say real life is good and short so leave ur Pcs and go out,its summer noobs :P

Комментарий от Allakhazam

love this thing

prefect wep, im an enchantment shammy and it is sweet, but the stun this doesnt proc very often for me...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

"What would happen if un Unstoppable Force hit an Immovable Object?"
This is the question this weapon and the shield Immovable Object are refering too.
But do you need a precise rank to buy those or you can buy it as soon as you have enough money?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Im half a rep bar away from getting this..
I'd give it two days and it will be mine.
All mine!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

to the guy down below, the frostwolf howler does NOT cost 800 gold. it is 640 gold at exalted

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Now that's how you ruin a game blizzard..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Now that's how you ruin a game blizzard..
/agree

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Instead of arguing about what class should use this weapon, I would actually like to know something. Does the chance to stun for 1 second stack with specializing in two-handed maces for warriors? So would it have a 5% chance to stun for 3 seconds from the spec, and then a chance on hit to stun for 1 second from the weapon? If so, this would definitly own some people. Plus the 2% extra crit chance makes up a bit for what you lose going spec'd in axes or polearms. 7000 rep till exalted =) beware alliance casters.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well considering that it takes alliance players 3X the number of runs to get this I think maybe we should get our own 3X damage multiplier.

Other than that this should match the best maces in the game as far as burst damage. That speed is great.

This it the only real hope for the bastrd stepchildren pallies that arent allowed to roll on much of anything in favor of the pure tanks and pure healers.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Great for Enchance specced shammy...

My windfury Crits with the +22 percent damage crit upwords of 1.1-1.2k I can one shot people with a hit, sotrmstrike, hit, earth shock...

Its teh pwnes

Комментарий от Allakhazam

At last, get it yesterday night.

Still wondering if I have to put "crusader" on it or "+25Agi" ?

My template is : 20/31/0

Комментарий от Allakhazam

For a mortal strike warrior with mace specialization, this thing is pretty much a wet dream, with that proc and the critical strike chance, i'd say it's only second to Sulfuras.

I can't wait to get it!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have it. It's an excellent weapon; the damage is absolutely insane. With the stormpike salvation buff and the stormpike battle tabard, I crit a warrior for 2.5k and killed him. I find myself 2-3 shotting a lot of people with this mace. I highly recommend it.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Was just reading through the 1.7 Patch Notes and I see this ...

* The Unstoppable Force now has a short duration stun instead of a knockback effect, and the stun will occur less frequently.

So yeah, I think I liked the idea of the knockback better than the stun. Oh well.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I would take the Obsidian edged blade easily over TUF. It has higher damage,faster speed, and +8 2hand swords equaling more hits and damage. The 42 strength equals about 84 attack power. It is a lot easier to do MC at least to get up to geddon rather than waste time in AV farming rep to get this.

oh yeah..ITS NOT A PALLY WEAPON! go get friggin aurastone hammers you noobish pieces of crap
KTHXBYE :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Obsidian edged blade is better than this. It has more DPS, damage, and also has +42 strength/+8 to twohanded swords too! It ends up doing alot more damage than TUF. OEB is also easier to get.

and this aint a pally weapon... GET A FRIGGIN AURASTONE HAMMER YOU STUPID PALLY NOOBS!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Just got it on my druid, so happy. Getting +15str on it. MEOW FTW!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

between buying this or staying with OEB - help plz

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Currently 1/4 of the way through Revered, on my way to exhaulted.

Oh god how my shaman wants this mace!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How long does it take to get Exalted?

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working on it now im over revered xD and im druid ofcorse feral!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

puurfect pally weapon in 1.9...

1st reason: i have 20prot/31retri build to use HoJ every 35 sec (judgement of command is sweet) and it centers around good burst damage to which opponent cant retaliate - swing, stun, swing, judge, swing, swing, repentance, start swinging, judge before landing a swing, but its still only 2 stuns (35 and 1 min cooldown) during which it makes sense to judge command. with this baby, if you keep your eyes open, you can judge a more often.

2nd: slow swings are good for SoC as its procs per minute, and high damage on its swing benefits SoC damage

3rd: +2% crit is awesome for pallies as after every crit we get 8 sec of +15% to ALL damage... with vengeance on JoC crits for near 1000 damage alone. it benefits pally a LOT to invest into +crit% items (i'm somewhere between 15-25% crit depending on what I wear)

in one word - puuurfect!

PS: 57% to exhalted as of today - moving slow, 'cause moonrunner horde wins AV 98% of the time

Edit - only thing that's not perfect is looks - for above reasons it's a pally weapon but it looks like something undead would use... /sigh

Edited, Wed Jan 25 03:44:16 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Warriors, there is no way you should take OEB over TUF for pvp.... the stun = win vs casters. Also, at this moment swordspec is bugged and doesn't work on instant attacks. (it never procs on overpower/mortal strike.) For the rest, the slower weap speed gives higher instant attack dmg. (yes I know the multiplier is nerfed and it'll use 3.4 standard for 2handers.) But it has something to do with the topdamage times bla bla times dps times 3.4 or summin.

Anyways, TuF > Obsidian edged blade. Maybe if Swordspec get's fixed Obsidian edged blade might be close to a match and discutable. but all of ya people go for tuf now imo.

This was for all the lollorz I think I can pvp and oeb rox people. :)

Edited, Sat Feb 11 05:28:57 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

best damn mace u can get by soloing imba stuff for lazy ppl :P

Комментарий от Allakhazam

4k reputation from exalted, and what I really wanted was the frostwolf howler, but just today, I found out it costs 800g. I Only have 100g *sobs* guess this will have to hold me over.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

HEHE!

for some reason this seems like a black recolor of Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros to me.....anyone else see the resemblance?

This looks NOTHING like Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros..

What the hell are you on?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/575/pallyt28cg.jpg

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What happens if The Unstoppable Force hits the Immovable Object?

Assuming both of these are possible, we must also assume that the universe is infinite,
and we must assume the unstoppable force has infinite kinetic energy and the immovable
object has infinite mass. If the force is unstoppable we must conclude that there is no
possible way for it to change vectors or speed, and therefore a transferrance of energy
is impossible and the law of conservation of momentum is meaningless. If the object has
infinite mass then it must be infinitely large, and in an infinite universe the object
would be the universe itself, becasue the idea of movement outside the universe is
meaningless this would make absolute sense considering the object is immovable. Nomrally,
it would only be logical to assume that if one of these force/objects exists, the other
cannot exist becasue it would cancel the first out, but if we assume that they both exist
we must eventually ask ourselves what would happen if these two collided? If the immovable
object is an entire universe we have to conclude that the unstoppable force does not exist
in the same universe, so where does it exist? According to the string theory, there are
multiple universes all connected by worm holes and are all intertwined like a cloth made of
string where the strings represent wormholes connecting every universe and dimention. This
tells us that the unstoppable force and the immovable object must exist in two different
dimentions from each other, making it impossible for them to collide unless the unstoppable
force enters a worm hole to the dimention of the immovable object. If the object does take
up an entire universe and is in fact immovable, there is no possible way for the unstoppable
force to enter the universe unless it is finite and stoppable, and since it is infinite,
the only explanation is that the unstoppable force leaves one dimention into a worm hole
and tries to enter the dimention of the immovable object and is ejected through another
worm hole into a dimention exactly opposite of the immovable object, thus retaining its
infinite kinetic energy and vector, while the immovable object retains its status as having
infinite mass and size. Conclusion: if the unstoppable force was to hit the immovable
object, this would result in the end of all universes and dimentions as we know it, because
if contact was possible the force would lose its infinite energy and thus it would become
finite, and a finite energy cannot exist in an infinite universe but the unstoppable force
would have to keep traveling, therefore all universes that the force could possibly travel
to (all of them) would become obsolete and disappear, resulting in the apocalypse

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is a great weapon for feral druids. The strength helps in cat and the stamina helps in bear.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

yeah thats pretty good wep when you get to 60's if you dont have any other good for save before it.
its also only 115-125g to buy it so not that expensive to think how good it is.

but still theres few way better weapons i.e hammer of ragnaros and might of menethil. those are harder to get so atleast i am mostlikely going to go with this wep till i get other of those.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm glad they're easy to get now,the ol' days of needing exhaulted rep and 125g to buy this sucked. Especially having to settle for crap honor 95% of the time cause horde had a helluva time getting past that SP bridge.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Nice to see my old undead warrior in all his glory...haha, good memories.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

give screens when u get it :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Free epics for all ?
Blizz 'll give /slay command to all , who visited Alterac at least twice, in next patch i guess...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If you have Arcanite Reaper, don't go for this... The weapon damage is very similar, only 20 more with this or so... The proc seems broken cause it doesnt work in PvE, so dunno if it works as it should in PvP either... The strength is 19, the "strength" on AR is 32, so that gets AR a little bit closer to TUFs damage. This one has 2 more stamina.. Yay...
So what you're doing, is playing 100+ hours in the most boring PvP zone ever, for 2% more crit, 20 more hp, and 20-25 more weapon damage.

Not saying its bad, it isnt.. But if you have AR, dont go through the hassle of getting this.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

actually with axe specialization this has -3% crit potential compared to the Arcanite Reaper. I agree if you have AR, don't bother with this. But if you don't..I suggest get this and don't bother for AR.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

to the guy down below, the frostwolf howler does NOT cost 800 gold. it is 640 gold at exalted
^ Thats only considering your a sergent. I mean it is possible to not even be one and be exalted! So technically.. wrong? :p

Btw I have this + ring + mount and soon to be shield as well >.>

Комментарий от Allakhazam

To bad AV is a joke now. I went from Neutral to Exalted in 10 days just by leeching reputation.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So what you're doing, is playing 100+ hours in the most boring PvP zone ever, for 2% more crit, 20 more hp, and 20-25 more weapon damage.

personally eldin i think that most people dont go through about a month of torture in the worst pvp zone EVER just to get a mace no matter how good...there are other nice things you can get like the mount which is epic but costs WAY less along w/ don julios band etc etc etc...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

suck*

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Wow, this sux...since 1.10 Alliance always win AV on Burning Blade so it takes so friggin long to get exalted :@ have 4000/21000 now. Got it in one week, every day some AV's, Horde won exactly ONE time...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Hunter weapon.
Discuss

Комментарий от Allakhazam

its now purchasable using honor points and marks of honor

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Permanent and inherent black glow, if that wasn't obvious from the pics.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

CHuck Norris could stop it

Комментарий от Allakhazam

costs 125 gold and can be bought at exalted reputation.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Pfft, I'd rather have this: http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=93560
with a nice off-hand.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is an Awesome weapon for people that grin BG and dont bother doing instances.

Druid-YES
Paladin-YES
Warrior- OYEAH!
Shaman-YES
Works with everyone..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

this weapon would make an insane 2h fury wep for warriors. because the 2h mace spec for arms warriors isnt crit chance, in my opinion, this weapon is better for a fury warrior. with +25 agility TUF gives a warrior +3.25% chance to crit, so depending on the warriors gear, he'll have 21+% chance to crit, and with talents like flurry and death wish, this weapon is deadly. I'm a 17 / 34 / 0 fury warrior, so i also have deep wounds, making TUF even stronger. i'm currently honored with frostwolf, and cant wait to get this, although its going to take a while. just my 2 cents

Комментарий от Allakhazam

wow everyone on my server has one of these. i feel they are too easy to get. Then again, AB and WSG are harder for me because Horde lose ALL THE TIME on Altar or Storms server...sigh..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is one of the best 2h you can get until BWL.

Which makes it.. boring.

1. It's ugly as hell.
2. Everyone and his grandmom has it.
3. It's good in every aspect, so there's really no alternative..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got it last night. It was 7000 honor, and I think 25 AV Marks.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

HEHE!

for some reason this seems like a black recolor of Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros to me.....anyone else see the resemblance?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

it looks like a big @#$%, with flies.

#$%^ + flies ftw!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I love this mace...it owns.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

since alliance pretty much constantly looses on bonechewer (havent played since patch 1.1 tho) and im really looking forward to get this nice weapon for my pally once i hit 60, i was just wondering how much honor you get when u loose AV? none?

Edited, Mon May 29 23:27:25 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well since the unstoppable force is unstoppable and the immovable object is immovable, the immovable object would break because immovable means not able to move, not invincible. On topic I got this mace a few days ago and i love it . I have blues along with don julio and this and I am getting ms crits on purpled wars for 1k+! This mace is a must have, I upgraded from IBS, Best choice of my life.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This and the Epic Sheild "The Immovable Object" are both invisble indestrucitble "dood" or "doodads" from Warcraft 3, and as a GM once said "The day the Unstoppable Force hit the Immovable Object is the day Chuck Norris was born."

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got this hammer yesterday, it's AWSOME. My previous weapon was the Eartshaker, and this weapon blows that away. The proc goes off insanely often, I've had it go off more than 10 times in duels. When it procs it causes the player to fall down and slide back a few yards(it doesn't cause them to go out of range or anything), as well as interrupts spell casting. It costs 125g to buy from the Stormpike Guard vendor once you obtain exalted status.

Here's a picture of me holding it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/khabal/theunstoppableforce.jpg

It's basically just a boar's head on a stick, with a black glow around it(but it looks much better than Earthshaker). One of my guildmates took the picture, to make sure my nameplate was on it :P, so don't yell at me for the crappy quality.

Edited, Mon Jun 13 23:02:37 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

im a paladin - got the mace too but dunno my seal of command isnt hitin very often with it ? but if soc is proccin then the damage is incredible

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Ok so what king of rank or reputation do i need to get this mace, i badly want it @#$% the other weapons. not hand of ragnaros that is :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

just around 2-3 runs more and i got this weapon on my shammy :D yeeey...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How many marks and honour do you need?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

what would be a better enchant crusader or +15 str?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I poo'd on a level 1 rat with this thing!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

would this mace be good for a warrior? Iwould like to get this and i want to know where to get this weapon

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Fear this Деревянная киянка suckas!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It's all black and looks like a smoking pig's head on a stick. I'm amazed that someone already has this after only 6 days of BG being released!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

what the hell are YOU on!

this is exactly like Sulfuras, only black. Don't believe me? go find the pics, cuz im too lazy to post them here...

Сульфурас, Рука Рагнароса Looks like a Mace

The Unstoppable Force, is a black boars head (with spikes) on a stick.

There is absolutely no resemblance.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Was wondering if I could get someone's opinion on wether or not Unstoppable Force was better than AR. I currently use Unstoppable Force and I find it better than AR but seem people seem to disagree. Any opinions?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if I can't get sulfuras, then i'll get this baby...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

You guys think this weapon is good for a Paladin? =) i am definetly getting this when i reach 60 until i get some other epic end-game stuff.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Finally got this today.
Must say best 2 hander I've had...
The proc is insane!
You kill players just cos of it.
Get it now!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I must have this mace! Nearly at Revered now!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

that weapon scuck big time! this is the right weapon

http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=181592

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have this on my shaman. I'm sure many people read their combat log and think, wtf after being the victim of a crit windfury.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I know some things on weapons (DPS most prominently) don't carry over for a feral druid, but does this mace give a feral druid the +2% critical?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Wait a sec...if its "unstoppable" when you swing it...wont it like...never Be able to stop meaning it would swing round in circles forever?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

u need to be Exalted @ AV (Stormpike and frostwolf?)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

gimmeh :>

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i think my post speaks for its self lol

Комментарий от Allakhazam

it's funny isn't it, a crafted weapon with 8 less DPS goes for 755G and here we can get something better if we have rep grinded with alterac valley

Комментарий от Allakhazam

No offence everyone but OEB is better its faster and stronger. I played a fury warrior with it and it rules.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Which is better for PVP only? OEB OR USF? I have enough gold, that isnt the issue i just wanted to know what is better? Alot of ppl say this and that i just need a straight answer, thx

Calis
60 Warrior
Ner'Zhul

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This will soon be mine! WF Crits! muahahaha!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I can one shot people with a hit, sotrmstrike, hit, earth shock...

Errrr... Were you hiding when they were handing out the BRAINS?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What happens if me...a warrior is wearing the imovable object and i get hit with the unstopable fore? this has hurt my head for some time.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How much doest it cost from the Alliance vendor, because im lv 54 and half way exalted with Stormpike, and i want this for lv 60

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If your fury warrior, and you have Titan's Grip...can you dual wield two of these?

If not, can you dual wield grand marshal's claymore?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The merchant sell/buy price is the highest in the game. Is the repair cost of this item also the highest in the game?

Not that it means nothing but I get 5-8 gold repairs, not really wanting to boost it to 20-30 gold repairs...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

OEB = PVE TUF = PVP, TuF has higher max and you'll save alot of dkp while not bidding to oeb, nuff said.

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Fear the mighty pig on a stick!

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