WoW Economy Weekly-Wrap Up: Beta Updates, Major Milestones, Time is Money, Wyrmy Tunkins Pet + Giveaway!

Опубликовано 26.05.2018 в 10:29 Gumdrops

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You'll notice in today's new Beta update that battle pet currency has changed. Here are the main changes:

Pet Charms will be named s. Shiny Pet Charms continue to be acquired by doing pre-BFA battle pet content.
A new currency has been added -- Polished Pet Charms. These are acquired by doing BFA content, such as Pet Battle World Quests.
Vendors that sell battle pet items that are always useful have had their wares changed to require new s as currency. For example, the vendor Serr’ah in Dalaran now wants the new s. Similar vendors who sell such items have had their costs adjusted as well.
Vendors that sell things like unique pets or toys that have always required s will still require s. For example, Giada Goldleash in Dalaran will still sell all of her pets and toys for Shiny Pet Charms.
The item, which was an achievement reward for completing 30 of the Pet Battle World Quests on the Broken Isles, will be added to a vendor with a cost. This is to avoid players feeling obligated to farm previous expansion’s world quests. You can do current content to catch yourself up. This is coming in a future Beta build.
Ultimate Battle-Training Stones are going to have their cost increased from 45 to 60 Pet Charms.

What this means for you: always-useful items will eventually move to the new currency, so you don't feel obligated to do older content. If you still need pets from older content, they are purchasable with that content's charms.

Spend those charms!
There will not be a conversion, nor will you lose them.

Original Zul'Gurub recipes lost to the world-shattering events of the Cataclysm, seem to be returning in Battle for Azeroth. Recent Beta builds have added three new NPCs at the Zuldazar docks: , , and . All three NPCs were present at the Yojamba Isle, by the coast of Stranglethorn Vale and are now at the Zuldazar Docks, in the Yojamba Exchange.

The return of these NPCs and their dialog about the Paragons of Power may indicate a new way to obtain reputation with the current removed Племя Зандалар, allowing players to once more obtain and another reputation to help towards and the title.

Currently, in Beta, the NPCs aren't hostile to Alliance players, so it is possible for players from both factions to once more acquire reputation and old recipes from them.

Returning Recipes
sells all recipes that were available until Cataclysm with Племя Зандалар, plus Рецепт: зелье неудержимости.

Recipe	Profession	Requirement
Формула: сверкающее масло маны	Enchanting	Friendly
Выкройка: сапоги Кровавой Лозы	Tailoring	Friendly
Выкройка: изначальные наручи из кожи летучей мыши	Leatherworking	Friendly
Чертеж: рукавицы кровавого духа	Blacksmithing	Friendly
Чертеж: наплечники темного духа	Blacksmithing	Friendly
Рецепт: сильное зелье спокойного сна	Alchemy	Friendly
Чертеж: линза Кровавой Лозы	Engineering	Friendly
Формула: сверкающее волшебное масло	Enchanting	Honored
Выкройка: поножи Кровавой Лозы	Tailoring	Honored
Выкройка: наплечники Кровавого тигра	Leatherworking	Honored
Выкройка: перчатки из кожи древней летучей мыши	Leatherworking	Honored
Чертеж: наплечники кровавого духа	Blacksmithing	Honored
Чертеж: поножи темного духа	Blacksmithing	Honored
Рецепт: сильнейшее зелье тролльей крови	Alchemy	Honored
Чертеж: очки Кровавой Лозы	Engineering	Honored
Выкройка: кираса Кровавого тигра	Leatherworking	Revered
Выкройка: жилет Кровавой Лозы	Tailoring	Revered
Выкройка: изначальный жакет из кожи летучей мыши	Leatherworking	Revered
Чертеж: кираса кровавого духа	Blacksmithing	Revered
Чертеж: кираса темного духа	Blacksmithing	Revered
Рецепт: зелье крови волшебника	Alchemy	Revered

How many exalted reputations do you have? Did you pick up these recipes before they were removed and if so, have you sold any of the crafted items from these recipes since they were removed? What are your plans for pets in Battle for Azeroth?shared an annotated graph and described their journey to 7 million liquid goldThis is about a 9 month stretch of activity. I started with a single level 60 priest and with 25k seed money from a generous goblin on my server I eventually parlayed that into 6 characters and 7 million liquid - and all on a low pop server (Runetotem-Uther). I got caught in that trap of, "ok I made my first million, now what?" to which the answer was "easy go make another!"...so 1 million became 2 million, and 2 became 4 and around that point I started to serious consider finishing the run to gold cap.

Revenue Sources

Here's a quick rundown of my revenue sources, then we'll go an annotated run of my climb to 7 million.

6 Maxed Order Halls all running speed builds primarily focused on rep tokens, gold, and pet charms currently. I make enough from DE'ing bracers and world quests that I can fuel help feed OHRs to all my characters. All my characters have an 8th champion maxxed specifically for bringing in extra OHR. This collection nets me roughly 35k-40k per week of mostly passive income per toon.
3 Jewelcrafters...primary sources are crowns and saber eyes, argus gems and cuts aren't worth the money right now unless you can farm them efficiently yourself. I have 3 Jewelcrafters so when Pandemonite WQs come up that's an easy 10k in my pocket
3 Enchanters (though I wish I had more). These feed me a steady supply of bloods, chaos crystals, and leylight shards, plus the neck and ring enchants have been and continue to be steady sellers even this late into the expac
1 LW who's primarily focused on producing Warhide Bindings so I can do the leylight shuffle (I can triple my investment on my server with these). But he's also really handy for drums and bardings which I use more and more.
1 Tailor primarily for hexweave bags (I missed this gravy train and actually had 3 tailors at one point, but bag prices on my server couldn't support that many tailors so I swapped them to jewelcrafters). But her other jobs include the silkweave bracer to leylight shard shuffle and the odd bit of tailoring.
1 Alchemist...it's rare that flask prices are profitable so having an alchemist is more to save money for raid mats (I love throwing down a spirit cauldron for a raid), but I also make great money selling infernal alchemist and astral alchemist trinkets.
Food - focuses are on nightborne delicacies and azshari salads, but everything sells eventually, I just don't care to keep everything stocked. Cooking has been the most surprisingly consistent revenue generator of all my other sources
Maxxed fishing - I don't fish much but when I do it's just to feed my personal supply of lavish suramar feasts, but fishing especially with a rank 3 artifact is incredibly lucrative especially for things like highmountain salmon, and black barracudas.
Transmog and BoEs. These are a no brainer - if you see a good price on the AH, buy it and spend months waiting for it to sell but they do eventually sell. I don't actively farm any of these.

Timeline

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1. & 2. - Starting with 25k, I worked on flipping mats and selling farmed materials of my own, primarily herbalism supplies. The dip from 1-2 was when I blew 50% of my bankroll on a 180k supply of starlight rose which I then turned around and sold for 600k so that was nice but that kept me cash poor for quite some time.

3. - I finally discovered TSM. ;D started picking up transmogs and 101 BoEs but didn't really know what I was doing, from 3-4 I made most of my money at this stage selling of all things, food.

4. - This was right around the Grumpus holiday event, and I sunk nearly everything i had into medallions and mounts (I've since turned all those around for double the profit)

5. - I started dipping my toes into Antorus BoEs and expanding my collection of pretty much everything. Around this time, I spun up a second character and used my Legion boosts to shoot her to 110.

6. - Dropped about a million plus to stock up Antorus BoEs all of which were sold at huge profits, also bought out a bot or boxer dump of 300k in starlight rose.

7. - This drop was more Antorus BoE investments but at a slower rate than earlier

8. - Hit my record at this point as money was starting to roll in faster than I could reinvest it. It was this point that I realized I needed to scale up my operation and look for more passive streams of income at which point I bought enough tokens to boost 4 characters. I spent a couple months running them all through the Argus quest line to max out their order halls, but I had a surprisingly good time just playing in them general.

9. - I discovered Enchanting and Jewelcrafting :D

10. - This was 10 day stretch right around the time the mobile AH went offline. Even though I couldn't play, I kept reposting via the mobile AH and made about 1.4million just selling things like enchants, rep medallions, and the odd BoE

10. & 11. - This most recent climb I've been on auto pilot...all OHs maxxed, food kept stocked, enchants and jewelcraft all kept stocked...this is where the importance of diversity comes into play...some days no enchants sell, some days no food sells, but having that many sale-able items across that many different markets - SOMETHING always sells.
And that's where I'm at today - sitting on about 7.3m liquid warchest ready for whatever profit opportunities BFA throws at us...great read from /u/lipsi, and I present it without further comment
Hello everyone!

I always love reading these, so I decided to now make my own.

Who are you?
I'm a raider in a top 100 guild on a medium population EU realm.

As for how I learned to make gold: Most of my economic understanding I learned from trading in Eve Online. I got my feet wet there and went bonkers completely when I failed economics at university and subsequently had more free time than I could handle. I specialized in trading faction/deadspace items when they still had to be traded on contracts. For those who don't know wtf I'm talking about, it was like trading dozens of heroic and mythic raid BoEs at a time. A lot of ISK (ingame currency) was involved, and unlike market trading you had to lock up half of your capital in buy contracts ("WTB orders"). That was until 2012 or so, when they were finally moved on the open market. While before I didn't have to compete with bots, I now had to, and at that point I decided to call it quits.

I learned a lot there, but most importantly I learned to mess with people.

My trading principles

First off: I enjoy making gold. I know g/h is highest when working IRL. But there is no joy in buying gold.

Recognizing the value of things (and a bit on opportunity cost)
Every looted item has value. This is especially true for items that can't be sold, like Bloods. On this subreddit we can often read about goblins having idiots unwitting people craft items for them using blood, but not being paid for the blood. The same goes for raid BoEs. If you're just giving them to friends, you might as well give them the 200k gold they are worth (which nobody does). Of course for me that is once progression is over.

No risk. ~~No fun~~.
I don't take risks. Let's have a word on TSM here -- this might offend some people: It's worthless to me. Regional values compared to my server are at best inaccurate and at worst wrong.
I don't dabble in weekly reset trading, neither do I bother with full resets. I see them going wrong all the time. But that might be because I'm the one to crash them for fun and profit.

Low auction count/high value items
This is where my medium pop realm comes into play. Prices are higher overall but sale rate slower in return. That being said, I'd rather end myself than trade on a high pop realm.
If the profit for an auction isn't at least 4 digits, I don't bother. I despise reposting dozens of stacks, even once a day. This doesn't happen on other realms, because margins are lower, but it's my thing here. On average I have less than 10 active auctions.

Simple things
This isn't much about economy, but I'll mention it. In the time I play, I try to make gold where possible, no matter what I do. That means my main characters have enchanting and I always try to do WQs that reward gold, OR or epics. I always loot for blood bags and BoEs, which gives vendor trash as a side. Looting adds up.

The good stuff
Sorry for the lack graphs, I'm writing mostly from memory.

Items that made bank

Bloods. Both types.
Obliterum
Order halls
Raid BoEs
Professions

The details:

Conclusion
Sorry I can't give hard numbers for everything. But that's about 20 million gold made in one and a half years. Excluded is gold from selling raids in the past 9 months that I've been in my guild (we have an exceptional team who manage this), which would add another ~6 million.It allows me to not only pay for my sub and my other blizzard purchases (including occasional gifts to friends), but also for stupidly expensive things like battle pets.

And of course the .

I hope this whole post can be of insight for at least some people trying to make a living. No clue what kind of questions one could have, but I'm happy to answer questions.

TL;DR: Get gold. Duplicate.
What has been your most recent gold-making milestone? What are you aiming for next? If you're not already actively gold-making, are you planning to start in Battle for Azeroth?/u/tstevo91 asks for more detailsHow do you manage your time? i.e. "today I will farm fishing materials for my food sales, tomorrow I will mine ore for my JC" etc? It sounds impossible to manage all of those characters and professions for me, I have 12 OrderHalls running but don't have much of an idea how else to get gold reliably. Fishing for black barracuda and turning it into food was decent for me in the past that's about all I've tried besides selling raw materials.I think the key here is understanding your limits and being honest with yourself about exactly how much time you want to spend on any given activity.

My answer to that question is - the least amount possible. I don't farm, though early on, even though I enjoyed farming for certain markets, I died a little on the inside when I calculated how much *time it would take to maintain that revenue stream.

This is why it's SO important for people to actually understand the opportunity costs of their decisions. Sure I could spend 4 hours farming and pull in 15k per hour, but wouldn't it be so much cooler if I spent 4 minutes scanning listings and picking up deals for flips or stocking up on cheap mats. It's certainly a different kind of farming, and the chart I posted is hopefully enough proof to support the idea that you can do nothing but work the AH to make obscene piles of gold.

But to answer your question - here's a typical week.

Tues - Thurs are my raid nights, I run my priest and warlock through Heroics, and then Garothi-Agg-Arg raids on both Normal and LFR for Pantheon trinkets. So the bulk of whatever time I'm online is spent raiding.

I don't play on the weekends except to scan the AH for cheap mats so I can stock up going into a selling week. I still make good sales on the weekend, but the week days are really my bread and butter.

For Order Halls, I do 90% of my missions from the phone app, and I check for missions 3 times a day so figure 15 minutes there. I check in on the actual OH mission toons a handful of times through the week, or if I need to pop a Strange Ball of energy or heal up troops. By and large they're hands off and I don't play them unless I'm bored.

What's taken up a lot of time recently that I didn't anticipate were the enchanting shuffles. Processing 22,000 mats into bracers and then shards takes time, but thankfully using some CKS helps to ease the sting of that so you can work and craft/disenchant at the same time.

As for restocks, it's a low pop server so I don't have to restock multiple times a day like you would on a high pop server. I could go weeks between restocks, but if I'm low on a particular gem or enchants, I pop on my enchanter for 5 minutes and I'm back in business. Same thing for food though food moves 4x faster than any other consumable I have so those restock cooks are more like once every 3 or 4 days. I spend at least one or two scan sessions per day scanning for cheap mats and I buy so I can maintain enough to produce 2 weeks worth of sales for a given item, so in the case of saber gems, I keep on hand 20 pandemonites at any given time and if they drop below 2k any time, I scoop them up.

I want to reiterate though - the whole point of my particular setup was to specifically choose markets that required the least investment in time so I could actually play the game and not just work the AH day in and day out.

I'm sure I'd be at 20 million by now if all I did was work sniper and spend my days driving every seller out of every market, but like an early post opined - it was my "great rich slowly" method. It worked for me because I had a steady and consistent income of around 33k/day for the past 3 months for what I felt was not a lot of work.

Apart from the that, the only other thing I'd mentioned that should be obvious is to make TSM work for you to take all the decision making out of the posting and reposting process. I don't even bother to see what my stuff sells for anymore to scan for reset opportunities. I repost so often that I catch the high markets and the low markets and still turn a profit.on averageVahdis aka RethRethRethBreg also released a video on the topic of 'time' this weekHow much time do you dedicate to gold-making? Would you prefer to spend more or less time making gold? What are your other main activities in game?tip this week from trusted goblin /u/KurragaImage credit iDepecheMode Hey goblins. Quick tick for you let traders and collectors out there. The current archeology quest rewards the a tradable pet: Wyrmy Tunkins. The quest takes about 20 minutes to an hour depending on how lucky you get, and as a bonus you get a few crates for making progress on any archeology things you need to do (although with the way legion Archeology is not a whole lot).

The pet is worth about 40k-50k on average most of the time, but while the quest is up you might find a bunch for cheap. Now is probably going to be the best time to pick it up because by the time the next one comes around people will be busy with BFA content so not as many are going to do the quest./u/GeneticsGuy backs up the value of the petHUGE PVP pet battler here... This is one of the best FOTM pets. So far, though unknown in BFA, it looks like it will continue to be a valuable and desired pet./u/Mochaboys offers some more help, and confirms you can attain the pet on multiple altshanks for this tip I didn't even know this was a thing but reading up on Wyrmy I realized it was probably a good idea to go and do the quest. Took me about 25 minutes with an archaelogy level of 50 (now it's at 120).

For those of you attempting the quest - pick up the quest Into the Fel Fire in Dalaran, go to Azsuna to talk to Brann then complete about 7 or so digsites to get the 10 fragments. Once you're done - go and hand in the 10 fragments to Brann and he'll do a quick run to spawn Wyrmy. Defeat Wyrmy, then go and collect the pet from Brann as the quest reward...

These are going for 120k on my server and it looks like you can do his on multiple alts as well, going to be a busy digging night for me :DHow much digging have you done in Legion? Did you complete all of the Archaeology quests? What are you looking forward to with Battle for Azeroth Archaeology?Note: this giveaway has ended. The winners' are: ikechi. Liutasil, and marios24.To enter: leave a comment below (minimum 1-2 sentences) responding to any of the Discussion Points from this week's post.

Prize: 3 x Battle for Azeroth Beta Key

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Комментарий от Etseperiondid some digging in legion , the rewards were really cool , making archaeology interesting.
i did around 4 of them , was too busy to do them all , but i'll sure take time to finish them later on!Комментарий от daryxlolOh i didnt know about the pet from archaeology. I guess if it is the last time it is avaivalbe i have to start doing archaeology so that i can get it before it is unavailable.Комментарий от corpusculHello.
I realy want to win a Betta-key.
Beacause I have about 70 millions of gold in one of the russian servers and it is important to me. Because I must see what will change in the BFA to (re)invest my money.
I visit wowhead, reddit (woweconomy) every day.
I read discord too.

So, I know much more than 80% of players, but.... I need to know even more.
Because there is a lot of MY time in my 70 000 000 of gold .... and I do not want to loose it.

p.s. of course I participate in official concours, in concourse of wowhead.

Good luck to every one.

And BOLARIUS is VERY VERY sweet, can't wait to see this beatiful town.Комментарий от thorr69I've been putting off doing archaeology in Legion just because it's so boring. I did get myself the ghost moose mount from archaeology the first time it came up. I currently have the ability to get 10 or 12 of these Wyrmy pets, so I think I may just do that. It looks like it's a potentially big payoff and I need seed money on my lesser servers.Комментарий от GraythornGamingI have not done much Archeology in Legion. That being said I will spend sometime this weekend attempting to get the pet from it! 120k gold is a pretty good reward for not that much work. Good luck all on the Beta Key Giveaway!Комментарий от JinthusI have did much digging at the start of Legion, because i wanted to get "This Side Up" achievement, to unlock that precious Ashbringer appearance that fits in my transmog. As for Bfa archeology, if there will be a good reward for doing it, i will surely do it :) And no, i didn't do all of the quests, i have did only 8, to complete the achievement.Комментарий от mokototoI dont really farm for gold, but i do farm transmogs, wich makes me a lot of gold, recently hit my first milion, hopefully by the time bfa comes out il hit my second million ^^Комментарий от alexanderclareI have not done much Archeology in Legion.
i didnt know about the pet from archaeology. I guess if it is the last time it is avaivalbe i have to start doing archaeology so that i can get it before it is unavailable.Комментарий от EllseeI wouldn't say I "dedicate" time to gold making. I'm a sucker for my own collections and my own completion, and make a tidy profit off of the excess I gain during that process. If that counts as gold making time, then easily 30+ hours a week, but for me it's all passive. I'd do the content regardless of the gold I make from it.

Ninja Edit: That being said, I dig deep into the goblin lifestyle. Read all the blogs, watch lots of videos, use all the fancy addons with their fancy functions. If I'm going to be making a profit, might as well maximize it. ;DКомментарий от SquirePipMan it's weird seeing how much difference prices for stuff can be on different realms. My realm Foxflower and Fjarnskaggl were never worth anything near 80-120g after the first couple weeks of Legion and you can't give away the crafted legendaries. Really shows that you have to tailor these tips to your realm and not everything works everywhere. Also thanks for the tip about the archeology pet, this is the first time I'd heard about it.Комментарий от WalkerfinI hear Blizzard also now has own giveaways competition not only account opt ins ones.Комментарий от DoozalHow much time do you dedicate to gold-making? Would you prefer to spend more or less time making gold? What are your other main activities in game?

I spend about 1/5th of my play time to make gold. I've found that to be a good balance for me. I don't need lots of gold nor do I find it appealing to dedicate large portions of time to only make gold. My other main in-game activities include: Dungeon running/Raiding, Xmog hunting, Pet battles/collecting, Pvping, and Daily/Weekly Questing.

Thank you for this Giveaway!Комментарий от artsylauriePart of why I recently re-subbed was to start farming up gold for the Brutosaur mount. I got the fancy Xmog vendor mount 2 expansions late, so I would like to get the new one a bit sooner than that, lol.

I definitely need to get a gold-making strategy rolling! I *just* got the BS mount recipe, and people on my server are bringing the mount price down to 50k instead of the 500k it used to be >:-<Комментарий от ThorwenMy gold milestone was 4.2 mil gold. That has been the highest number that I ever had. I was never good at piling up the gold. I get to 3 mil, I spend it. I get to 3 mil again, I spend it. I would like to chill with my spending fetish so I can gather a gold cap, just for a screenshot haha. But I'm not that patient, theres always something I want to buy, and therefore, I don't think I'll get that gold cap screenshot anytime soon. I do have around 3 goldcaps on my "Aquired gold" stat, but never saved it up to hit the cap, always gotta spend it. xPКомментарий от nisxIm kinda disappointed that they are changing the pet charms, already had around 1500 but oh well. Ill have to use them now before they are useless. Also its nice to see them adding old stuff like the ZG recipes .Комментарий от Teme01Ever since the brutosaur was put on the beta, I started to farm gold using the class order hall missions on my 3 max level characters.

Edit: a wordКомментарий от gimperMy highest gold point was 2 mil which i bought the spider mount at that point and i haven't really peaked much since. I mostly spend all my gold on tokens or boosts so that may have a huge play in it. I make most of my gold on xmog items and selling/crafting enchants through TSM.Комментарий от kairosiwaI really liked archeology quests!
Most of the prizes were really cool (talking bout you Mr.EpicMoose) but some were kinda meh so I didn't bother.
I actually enjoyed digging around since the whole concept is pretty entertaining plus I was able to farm my meats, erbs and skins at the same time!
Tho I hope Bfa brings more toys, pets and such.Комментарий от VelgronConcerning the Order halls: I have 6 characters and do all quests which reward gold. It's actually a very good amount and absolutely free if you have WoW application on your phone. Just check your characters twice a day and you'll have enough gold for subscription and consumables for raiding.Комментарий от RascothI got my archeology to max on 3 chars in Legion, plus a lot of additional digging on my main. I missed... 2(?) archeology quests, partially because they were on during my less active weeks and partially because I was not so interested in their rewards. As for BfA, I really hope for more unique questlines. Maybe even another mount.

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