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uhh.. no. I have about450 +dmg&healing; gear, and the best specs are still arcane/frost or fire (for pve). Frost did defiinitely get buffed, and its fairly worthwile to put 31 points in it, but dont have any less than 15 in arcane if you're getting Ice Barrier.

P.S. I have seen 63 AQ20 books. NOT. ONE. DAMN. MAGESPELL.

least of all this one, which i covet.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i bought this book for 175g. im not doing aq20 so had to buy it.
This rank is so much better than rank 10, im doing 1600crits easily.. aww, serious dmg!

Комментарий от Thottbot

my main mage that i play on total frost. at lv 41 he is critting for 800almost...i dont think thats normal for a 41 to have +170frost power, i think i got lucky on things from the ah ^^

Комментарий от Thottbot

lol now that i hit lv 44 i got new boots that give like +22frost power or something ( 5 more than my other boots) and when i crit now...its 925..major crits are now 950^^ i think thats nice for a lv.i think that good for a lv 44 without any +frost damage ENCHANTS..although im thinkin of buying one with my money from the ziggler..a zealot..and a dark whelping^^ lol im too lcuky...

Комментарий от Thottbot

How much does this spell crit for when you are a full frost mage, does ne1 know?

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atm im lvl 54 and im hitting like this but with 2 ranks lower frostbolt :D

Комментарий от Thottbot

i got this the other day, it's so leet. better than any epic in the game imo.

the bummer is i run outta mana a lot faster on a boss.

the good thing is i do a ton more damage.

1k hits
2k crits

highest crit so far with it was 2.5k

Комментарий от Thottbot

thats really nice. makes my stuff to count like more dmg+ =)

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i'm lvl 50 and i crit like 950-980 all the time, frost specced btw, and i only have 92 +dmg, so i can easily kill non-caster players up to lvl 58

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Since patch 2.0, as well as Frost Ward rank V. However, I couldn't train Fireball rank XII, which is the other AQ20 book rank.

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I've been critted for 2900 with a frost bolt for a little while ago. Wounder if it could go up to 3k with the ultimate gear pre bc.

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not sure if it was on a frostbolt (id assume so cause it was in BWL) a mage crit for over 12000. that is my kind of crit right there. Luckily we raid w/ the guild w/ the mage in it :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

.. dont understand why it says u can only train it with book, when u also can train it at trainer.. :S

and for the 12000 crit i just have to say WOW

Комментарий от Thottbot

lol t2-t3 crits more than 3.3k xp i have seen one crit 4k with frost bolt thats why i became frost mage :D

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im currently a 40 frost mage with 118+ dmg gear and with 31 frost talents i got shatter and the extra 100% crit dmg and i crit for 700+ my highest so far was 800 i guess im kinda lucky eh? oh yea plus i have the mageblade from the quartermaster so im geared for 60!

Комментарий от Thottbot

My frost mage (currently lv. 27) can pull off 400 crits and I laugh at those who think frost mages critting for 300 at level 29 are good. I currently have +62 frost damage gear and I was wondering wether or not its worth it to be frost in the long run, because ive heard or insane crits as a fire and as a frost mage (arcane included) any hints? ty,

Imnotatwink, level 27 (human) frost mage
Mal'ganis.

Комментарий от Thottbot

fire mages are USELESS in raids, the only real spell they can use (without blessing of salvation due to threat problems) is scorch, which, is not very strong at all, and still can burn mana fast, not to mention fast cast time, which is bad because this will increase your TPS (Threat Per Second) and you will die FAST.

i'm a 58 ice mage on Medivh, with only +39 frost dmg gear i crit 1.2k, you need to consider:

lvl 60 rank 11 frostbolt + a usual t1/t2 mage's +150/+250 damage, multiply by %6 (talent) add %15 then double.. a 60 frost mage could easily crit around 2k - with very little mana cost and reduced threat (talent: frost channeling) and 2.5 sec cast time (talent: improved frostbolt 5/5). not to mention the chill affects, which can cripple any class (permafrost, %50 slow, increased duration - winter's chill - both talents), also the chill affect created by the frostbolt procs with frostbite, giving you a %15 chance to freeze someone in place for 5 seconds from ANY chill affect, as in frostbolt, and even when someone hits you in melee (chill affect from ice armor).

cool things about frost mages:
we get ice barrier, with 24 second cooldown (talent: ice floes 2/2) and being able to absorb 900 damage without interrupting cast (this includes DoTs, melee, and spells) we also have coldsnap (instantly finish all frost cooldowns) and ICE BLOCK, lasts 10 seconds makes you immune to EVERYTHING. all with low cooldowns, and, dont forget, summon water elemental.

sure, maybe fire mages are good for PVP because of their fast-kill capabilities, this makes up for a mage's lack of armour and health, but when it comes to some pvp and ALL pve, you'll want to be a frost mage.

look over our (frost) talent tree and theres alot of possibilitys.

MOST people choose fire mages because all they want is more damage, and they think its cooler hitting harder, they do not think strategically, all they see is (more damage) better than (less damage) but in reality, we can get more frostbolt casts off in a certain time and overall amounting to more damage than they ever could with fireball, not to mention a fire mage's mana consumption is that of a gas guzzler, making it more ideal for lowbie pvp where you know you are going to die anyway.

Voxletum (lvl. 58 Human Frost/Ice Mage)
Server: Medivh US
Guild: Divine Winds

questions? contact ingame

Комментарий от Thottbot

It is buffed and can be trained straight away in BC.
Dmg is around 546-586

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm just wondering with the 50% damage bonus to spell crits in Arcane and the 100% damage bonus to frost spell crits in frost would you be at 300% damage with frost spells? Because as an arcane/frost mage, you have an unlimited amount of mana and you get the 25% int to damage and healing effects. And as a gnome mage i have around close to 400 int. So for all you dumb people 25% of 400 = 100 more damage and healing. Check out my spec and gear(my gear sux and i still will get high crits with this spec). http://ctprofiles.net/2808723 (I haven't played since 2.0 so my spec doesnt show my 70 build. Just add these +2 more to Piercing Ice, +2 to Imp. Frost Nova, +5 to Shatter, and finally +1 to Ice Block.)

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am currently a 44 mage with about 152+ frost dmg...

i have some 45 items pending and once i get them MY frost dmg would be about 252+

nice eh?

was wondering is 860-950 crits for a 44 mage good?

Hits: 370-470
Crits: 860-950+
highest crit was 1000 or something is that good

please comment
Name: Grhope
Faction: Alliance
Realm: Cenarion Circle

Комментарий от Thottbot

thats good. but are you all damage gear? do you die in like 2 hits? id try to avoid that... I always thought pure stats was the best way to lvl. never having to eat or drink.

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actually im epiced out...

i got stats worked out and i got high dmg

i also have potions to keep me up and running and i got pretty good enchants

No i dont die in 2 hits!
i die in 3
lol

actually my stamina is quite high with 1.3k health without any for buff and with my mana up to 4k with int buff

187+ frost dmg now : ) still 44
i got the zum'rah vexing cane and spellshock pants recently so my health ZOOMED up
still 1.3k and my mana is 4k without int
i know stats is best all the way and i try my best to keep my healthy balance between both
oh and BTW: i have epics and kikass echants cause my potions sell pretty good on weekends (swiftness, free action, ect.)
Thnx for Respond
though i am pretty good in PvP hunters ALWAYS get the best of me unless i slow fall and start the initiative (fire blast, cone of cold, frost nova) any Vs. hunter advice? thanks in advance

Комментарий от Thottbot

i just use frost nova and back far enough up they cant melee but not 2 far so they can shoot. other than the 2 frost bolts i get off there with arcane power and pom, i just use my instant abilities so they cant try and run away to shoot. the 2 frostbolts take em low enough it only takes a fireblast/coc. i hope that helps.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yea i've heard of that place its called the dead area where u are between 5 and 8 yards

hunters cant do S*it there!
but their pets are so annoying!
do i throw up an ice barrier or sheep the pets?

and yea i took off smoe dmg and healing for stats
im 45 now so i took off my headgear for the dreamweave circlet and my cape for something that adds 7 int and 7 stam and my necklace is now the triune amulet
thnx 4 advice
and thanks in advance for the hunter pet thing!

(P.S.) i tried your frost nova idea and it works!
but i nearly die all the time cause of their pets!)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

at lvl 56 you can already crit over 1.3, using spell improvement gear u can easily crit more than 2k,
I m trying to get this one for me too

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I dinged lvl 60 last night and i cant find anywhere to train this?
I only has Rank 10 and when i look here it says u can have rank 11...but i cant train that.
But on Thottbot there is no Rank 11 frostbolt in spell list...why?

Can some one help me out here plz?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Ive seen some mages do 1000 dmg with frostbolt. how they do this?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Correct this is AQ20 drop. I personaly think that Rank 11 frostbolt is better than any epic or similar item in game. Mages should aim to this.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The Rank 11 Frostbolt is a drop in AQ20 that won't be available for you until your server opens the gates to AQ. The other classes have similar upgrades that drop in AQ20.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Some mages crit for over 3000 with frostbolts.

I've only made it to 2600, but I dont have rank 11 FB yet either.

Комментарий от Kanariya

Compare to Rank 10:

+75 - 90 Base damage (515 - 555 vs. 440 - 475). Spellpower coefficient is 81.4% for both ranks.
+30 Mana (290 vs. 260) -or- +26 Mana w/ Направленная сила льда (247 vs. 221)

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Ледяная стрела

Ледяная стрела	Уровень 11 60-го ур.

Мана: 290	Радиус действия: 30 м

Применение: 3 сек

Атака ледяной стрелой, наносящей 515 to 555 ед. урона магии льда и снижающей скорость передвижения противника на 40% в течение 9 sec.

Аура

Ледяная стрела	Уровень 11 60-го ур.

Скорость передвижения снижена на 40%.
Осталось: 9 сек.

Свойства заклинания

Длительность

9 сек.

Школа

Лед

Механика

нет

Тип рассеивания

Магический

Категория ГКД

Обычный

Стоимость

Мана: 290

Радиус действия

30 метров (Medium)

Время прочтения

3 сек.

Восстановление

нет

ГКД

1.5 сек.

Эффект #1

Apply Aura: Decrease Run Speed %
Значение: -40%
Механика: Пойманный

Эффект #2

School Damage (Лед)
Значение: 515 (Мод.-р СП:0.814)

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Classic Mage DPS Beginners Guide - Classic WoW 1.13 Classic Wow Mage Talents and Builds guide Classic WoW Class Spell & Trinket Books Guide DPS Warrior PvP Guide Hunter PvP Guide Mage PvP Guide Warrior Tank PvP Guide

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