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this talents is so good...you can get a free first aid if you need that,or you can fire a aimed and multishot....if you one of the ranged skills crits
you get you target down to 50%! + the target still have the 600 damge...but little stupid to do it at warrior/paladin they got to much armor....place a immo trap...if you have cleaver traps 2/2
its 900 damge over 15 sec and the wyvern sting 600 damge over 12 sec...THATS 1500 damge!
and i can say to all you marksmen hunters that you should try this..it is both good in pve and pvp..
and sometimes in instance if you dont have any mage
or other classes there can sheep and seduce...and there is alot other good things in the talent tree...

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what if another hunter is in party...he gets aura. Survival is essential for every hunter, but scatter shot saves lives / creates more opportunites than wyvern ever will period.

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Feign death + Wyvern sting/Freeze trap works better... and u will get more time to use bandage etc..

BTW why not use FD wyvern and then lay out a trap?

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scatter would more likely b better jus by cooldown, cuz in more dangerous situations u should b able to use it more times.

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Im am in BG alot and i can say that wyvern sting
is alot better then scatter shot
1.sleep a healer(yes i know it can be removed)
2.If there is 1 defender at the flag you can shot the sting at him and take the flag(you have to be very quik
3.it damge 600 damge over 12 sec when the target
wake up

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I am an end game Hunter that does both BWL and PvP. I have re-specced about 12 times now: here is what I have learnt:

1/ Really doesn't matter that much. Your play style and party/gear is more important.

2/ If you are a scared hunter or attract a lot of aggro (whatever the reason): you must have scatter shot. There is no other way.

3/ If you are in a group of 5-10 around you then chances they will pick on you is less. Wyvern sting's sleep is a boon.

Many people like Wyvern sting because it allows a free (instant like) aimed shot. However if you are a reasonable hunter, then you can often not attract aggro and shoot freely. It all depends on how much initiative you want.

Scenario 1:

Active 1v1 Meeting engagement. Where both opponents see each other and enemy heads for you directly. Here a Wyvern Sting will give u an instant freeze of opponent and that vital aimed shot off. However the DoT you leave behind means: no ice traps will work and you will have to rely on OUT DAMAGING the enemy through DoTs (Wyvern and Fire Trap).

Scenario 2:

Ambushed. Here you are ambushed by another player who is already 10 yards or closer in. Scatter shot here and a trap will save your life. Whyvern sting is out of the question unless you can pull away. Chances are that you messed up and the opponent is good, so we can safely rule Wyvern baby out of this. Scatter Shot is needed here.

Scenario 3:

You Ambush. Your ambush will mean that you get free shots off before your enemy can react to your location. In either case, Wyvern or scatter shot isn't all that helpful. In fact Scatter shot might be more useful for dazing enemy and pulling another Aimed shot off.

Scenario 4:

Stop runners. As with PvP this is a very important aspect to stop a flag runner or just to delay someone. The reach of Wyvern sting can do this and sleep people on mounts.

Things to remember: Wyvern sting has 2min cooldown and you must be out of combat
Scatter shot does weapon dmg and has 30 second cooldown as well as covering ur deadzone range.

Conclusion:

Wyvern Sting used right in certain circumstances gives a massive boost. But restricts your play style a lot!

Scatter shot is safe :o)

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Alot of people play with freinds from rl. With that it's good to build chars that compliment eachother. Like a hunter with scatter shot friend with wyrn. Unfortunatley my friend and i figured that out too late for that, we both have scatter. Which in itself isn't a bad thing. But if u start early talk and build chars, that way most of the bases are rounded. Another thing to consider is the firepower u bring to bear. I roll with a gun Silencer right now, my friend uses Bow of Searing arrows. Both have good dps but with the diff attack speeds we almost lay down a constant volley of fire on a target. But if you catch it early enough talk to your freind pick what you want why not roll with the best of both worlds?

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Can you stun (with items), disengage, back up, and use this in combat?

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Tremor totem also puts out the sleep effect

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man this is essential for every hunter. screw scatter shot n marksman all together - big woop if your cooldowns are 0.001 secs less or you deal 0.0001% more damage with range.

survivalist all the way - and for the engineering hunter wyvern is a dream. riding along on the mount, spot a noob horde, demount and wyvern while running --> GNOMISH DEATH RAY while he sleeps (BAM theres like 3000 dmg rite there) then like concuss teh fool and arcane him.

unbeatable on a PVP server. if youre a horde and want to be pwned, make a character on Akama.

FOR THE ALLIANCE!

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I like scatter - it is safe and i think it is beter

if you want to have both - get Goblin Rocket Helmet :)
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=11272

it doesnot require out-of-combat :) but PUTS YOU OUT OF COMBAT
- that means free trap, safe range -> Aim shot etc...etc

you can even sit and eat/drink in these 30 sec...

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iv always envied the survival tree for this talent. i think its so cool that u can put emt o sleep and when they wake they will get DOTted. Perfect for aimed shot waitinf for them as they wake.
I really wanna respec for this briefly to try it out. Specially to pretty much 1 shot lowbs.

I do have 1 question tho. if ur aimed shot hits the ebemy 1st, will it activate the DOT since he awoke? or will he have to awake from the wyvern effect?

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combat trapping will be harder, or so I have heard...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6926602508942333146&q;=beta+hunter+traps

Like a 3 sec delay when you lay a trap.
combat trapping will be a lot harder...
However the trap radius is insane.

---Scenario 2:

Ambushed. Here you are ambushed by another player who is already 10 yards or closer in. Scatter shot here and a trap will save your life. Whyvern sting is out of the question unless you can pull away. Chances are that you messed up and the opponent is good, so we can safely rule Wyvern baby out of this. Scatter Shot is needed here.---

but I'm not really worried about TBC yet...

All I can say I've met only two wyvern sting hunters, and neither of them were lv 60 (a spec before that is also testing and finding "the one")

Scatter shot > Wyvern Sting. Scatter shot wins with it's shorter CD, easier to use, nice in deadzone and useable in combat.
I'd go for wyvern, simply because I don't want to be like majority of hunters, who have scatter.

What blizzard should do is to reduce cooldown on wyvern sting... and test how "imba" it would be if it would be useable in combat.

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does this still require outofcombat mode?
there is no info in the description about it.

pls dont answer if you dont have it.

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