As you can see, they are way better than Wristguards of Stability for the cat form, which would benefit from HotW. In bear form, the AP difference is 26 AP = 1.86 DPS before armor.

Bottom line, Wristguards of Stability is only good for the steady DPS given by AP, and less crit dependency in short fights. In the long run, Forest Stalker's Bracers is superior. On the plus side, Wristguards of Stability would cost you less than 2dkp in an average MC raid. Forest Stalker's Bracers would take you weeks to farm.

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These blow wristguards of stability out of the water, but who cares? AV-exalted teh noobsauce. AB-exalted holy crap that was the longest 1-3 months of my life (depending on if you're on the side that wins pugs or loses them {usually horde - alliance respectively}) WSG-exalted I quit. Getting exalted in WSG is rediculous, even on serious pvp servers only a handful of people will have it because it's so incredibly hard and you get hardly any rep for games that can frequently last 40+ minutes. It's like playing AV but getting AB rep. Even if you can get an org group that wins all the time, stalemates combine with the new deserter feature means that you're in for a slow crawl to exalted. You get 92 for a win, 42000/92 = 456. For an average game which lasts 25 minutes (honestly they on average take even longer but I'll be optimistic) you're looking at 190 hours if you win every game. Not including queue times, downtime, etc. Unlike AB, you only get rep during the match for a flag turn in, so it is very feasible that you have a 30-40 minute game where you earn ~ 30rep (~15 loss token, ~15 for 1 flag). So your 190 hours of wins is 583 hours of losses. So, assume you do about 50/50, now you're looking at: (42k/61)*25min/60=286hrs. Again, not including queue time, turn in time, the cost of farming or alt-tabbing to ebay gold to cover the repair bill of this much pvp, etc. That's 12 days of playing 24-7, say you play hardcore and play 8hrs a day, and have quit your guild (and the MC run where you could have spent minor dkp to get WGofStability), you're now looking at 36 days. So, in conclusion, at 8 hours a day it will take you a month. But you can't get wsg games on many servers, so add at least 30% to that of just sitting in IF waiting on a queue. Oh and don't forget the shoddy honor you get while your competition rakes it in farming AB for HKs, so you'll get stomped in pvp ranks (at least compared to other pvpers who are playing 6+ hours a day)

The one ray of light? Make a pact with a guild on the other side, and on a sunday morning at like 9am start joining at the same time and trade wins. If you trade wins in WSG you can finish a game in <5 minutes. So 10 minutes for a win (92 rep) and a shutout (16 rep), gives you 108 rep every 10 minutes, or 10.8 rep a minute. (42k/10.8)/60 = 64 hours, combine with some honor weekends in there, and you can probably cut that down to ~50 hours. Find a group with off-time schedules on each side, do that for 2-3 hours a day and you can finish in a month fairly painlessly. (at least compared to your alternative)

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I'm glad I read the comments here..
I have Nightslayer Bracelets (yeah i'm extremely lucky, I know.... these seem to NEVER drop) and I recently started doing heavy WSG.

I liked the comparison between these and NS, and honestly to someone who already has NS, this is a total waste of time.

I MUCH rather go and farm materials for Amulet of the Darkmoon, it'll take a lot less time for an epic with pretty decent stats.

I think from the 3 battlegrounds, the AV epic rewards are the best for a rogue. So if you're a rogue & want to do some hardcore PvP for the best rewards, then by all means go Alterac Valley all the way.

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Why do certain classes think they are better than others? Seriously I think these are just as good for a feral druid as they are for a rogue, we both would benefit from having these. Why argue over something so pointless, especially hunters, we get it you guys are the very BEST class, rriiigght, sure you are. Just calm down, it's a game, not your life your messing with here(well for most of u I hope, at least). By the way, DRUIDS RULE.

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it's a reputation reward, arguing over who benefits the most from em is just totally retarded...

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After endless hours of pvp in warsong gulch i finally got exalted XD (rogue)

Got these beauties along with a new pvp rank and the General(Rank 12)gear. Lots of epics in one day makes me happy in my pants XD

P.S. There's no need to whine over faction items. They are ment for anyone, and if they are not then they have a specific class requirement on them. :P

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i been doing warsong a few times but i dont have any rep with them, is rep like ya rank or something?

plz tell me

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Imo, these bracers are the way to go for hunters. When comparing this to the mail counterpart, it's kinda ^&*!. Especially if you are LR specced. The mail ones give 120 mana (which is nice), but losing crit for that isn't worth it. And the more agility you have, the better LR becomes.

	Armor	Agi	AP	Int	RAP	MAP	Crit
Windtalker's Wristguards	182	0	38	8	38	38	0
Forest Stalker's Bracers	124	19	0	0	38	30	0.36
Forest Stalker's Bracers(LR)	129.7	21.85	0	0	43.7	32.85	0.41

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(Lev 40) 621 Honor + 20 WSG Marks
(Lev 50) 918 Honor + 20 WSG Marks
(Lev 60) 6750 Honor + 20 WSG Marks

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Much easier to get this now than before. Finally my first epic ever at lvl 40 ^^

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this has to be the easiest epic ive ever seen

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All comments above here have stated the following:
Blabla Druids should have them, blabla Rogue too!
it is a Faction reward, ANYONE can get them at ANY time considering if you have the requirements to BUY it.

in patch 2.0.1 Blizzard revamped the honor system, so now you can get the level 40 verson with ~6 hours of PvP, maybe 10hours for the 50 verson and the 60 verson... well.. Greens in Outland are better then those :P

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Easiest epics I ever gto, no time to win 20 tokens, infact 2 hours max, waited for the honur to be calculated at night, holiday weekend, sorted, too easy to get, blizz have slackned there leash too much.

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this bracer kicks ass! they are better than any bracers before lvl 50 and the one that beats it is the itemForest Stalker's Bracers/item for lvl 50! i love these bracers.

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fking ace bracers

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Wonder what u need to be Rep wise
Thinking Exaulted casue the epic statise

Edited, Sun Jul 31 18:02:17 2005

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I am using these as a feral druid...they replaced my wildheart. Good bracers for me. love em...until BC that is.

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