A great enchantment that is constantly in demand.

The most efficient way of grinding Timbermaw rep is to gather some friends and wreck havoc on the various Winterfall encampments in Winterspring.

Each Winterfall mob killed yields +5 rep and there's a decent (15%) chance they will drop spirit beads.

A stack of 5 spirit beads can be redeemed for +75 rep with the Timbermaw faction.

Комментарий от Thottbot

White fulborg in tunnel sells it.
To bad i'm not enchanter and its bind on pickup :(

Комментарий от Thottbot

To gain faction, you can do the quests given by the furbolgs and/or just kill other furbolgs. Easiest thing is to kilkl lots and lots of Deadwood and/or Winterspring furbolgs, you get 5 reputation-points per kill. When you hit Friendly, a new killing-quest becomes available (the one in Felwood is bad, because the travelign time fromt eh southern part of the map to the furbolg to turn it in is a waste of time and drops) in winterspring. The furbolg at the winterspring-entrance aks you to kill 8 of the three types of winterspring Furbolg. Thing is, right next to him is 2 camps, a mage can clear both, and then they respawn by the time he/she is done. Turning the quest in gives 75 rep-points (+10% for humans ^^). I'm currently 1000 rep-points from revered with them.

I prefer killing the winterspring furbolgs because a) they drop Winterspring Firewater which the guild tanks LOVE (I enjoy using it to get a bigger mount than gnome warlocks) and b) they are hardly ever camped by hordes like the deadwood ones are. Also, a chest spawns at the 2 camps (random which camp) around 4 times an hour and it has some nice drops.

Комментарий от Thottbot

No no, you're confused. Rep always goes up on the bar, not down. You're at hated but gaining rep, when the bar is full you'll get an empty bar for hostile and you'll have to fill it up.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You need friendly to buy and sell from him, but honored to get the recipes.

Комментарий от Thottbot

in the southern camp "deadwood village" they drop feathers that when u turn in 5 you get 50 xp...its a nice little bonus to the 5 per you get

Комментарий от Thottbot

You can buy the Formula for +25 to 2H weapon at friendly.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You need to be honoured to get +15 agi to 1 h

Комментарий от Thottbot

TBC has changed a lot of things. If you have to solo this and are only going for Honored with this faction for the enchant I would recommend possibly waiting until you are higher level. While my higher level has nerfed my ability to gain as much rep per kill/turn-in I can grind these things one hell of a lot faster solo (as a mage) by getting more feathers than would ever be possible in a group and turning them in for much, much more rep than grinding kills. Doing a huge group grind is probably better at lower levels but with TBC out you may not be able to sustain the efficiency of a group grind like this for very long.

Since the increased enchanting cap has also fragmented the market you're probably going to be selling most of these enchants to twinks from here on out. It's just not worth the excessive amount of time you will put in at lower levels if you are soloing this faction rep, in my opinion.

Some people might disagree with that strategy but in all likelihood those people are going for Revered/Exalted and want to use feathers/beads to grind the hardest parts of this rep. For just Honored though, I'd say wait if you have TBC.

Комментарий от Thottbot

In 2 Days. Lvl 70. Drop rate on feathers is about 30%. 1 rep from kill. 25 rep from Chief.
I came run and kill everything non-stop. Dont share nothing with noone cause the faster you grind the quicker you leave.

Shava
Feral Druid
Blackwing Lair = Horde

Комментарий от Allakhazam

what service charge is reasonable to charge when ppl r supplying the mats?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i literally just spoke with an enchanter on Dreanor who has this enchant, and she said that once you get your faction to Honored with the Timbermaw Furbolgs, they will sell you this formula.

i asked her if there was a quicker way to increase faction, she said the only way she knows of is by killing the Furbolgs in Felwood... apparently that could take a long time, killing those furlbolgs constantly for 5-7 days straight...

later on,
Rock.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

You can buy this at Friendly.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

All the evil furblogs give the same rep (named ones give slightly more), so you should just stick with the quickest ones to kill. Those being the ones in southern Felwood. Only problem is that with this enchant, everybody and their mother is camping them.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My guild went on a timbermaw rep raid to get these agi enchants for a friend. We went into LFG and recruited and summoned anyone that wanted to go. At the peak we had 25 people and moved very fast. It took us one and a half nights of going around the lake in northern felwood killing the furbolgs as they respawned(which is dangerously fast) having a blast in general.

I say a night and a half because a raid of horde came along and shut down our little operation so we quit for the night and did it again the next night but with less people. I would hate to grind it alone as they add like crazy and it is a popular place so it is not unlikely not to have the opposite faction show up angry when they see you killing THEIR furbolgs.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How

Комментарий от Allakhazam

You do need timbermaw faction.

You don't have to kill only the bad furbolgs in felwood. There's also ones in winterspring.

I've heard the following but have not verified myself, so your mileage may vary....

You can get a quest in northern felwood (from a timbermaw outside the tunnel) to kill the southern felwood furbolgs. This nets very little faction and is considered not worth doing more than once. Just kill the furbolgs in the south until you are slightly past middle of neutral faction. Once there, head north in felwood to the same quest guy and get the quest to kill the guys on the north end of felwood. This still nets little faction but you are at least close to the guy so it doesn't take much time away from killing.

One you are friendly (or perhaps 1/2 way through friendly?) there is supposed to be a quest to kill the furbolgs in winterspring. This is supposed to net much high faction rewards though I'm still at "unfriendly" after several hours so I can't verify :-) :-) I've heard 15-20 hours of faction hardcore farming will do it. I'm no where near that level of effort invested yet.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The most boring think i EVER done in wow was 4days bilding rep with timbermaws...

Now got this formula and it rox...

Any1 know what U get(if U get somthing at all) when U grin max rep. posible with them...

Edited, Mon Aug 1 07:24:04 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ok looking at the mob data for furbolgs in this site, and it turns out they dont have any, can any 1 link the data or the coords of where they are along with the level they are

Комментарий от Allakhazam

For the record I would like to say I F(*&ing hate furbolgs...thanks

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anyone know what are the mats needed for this enchant?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

where do i get this formula is it drop tranier give where do i get this enchantment/ thx

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if you are KILLING the timbermaws,your rep with them IS getting worse,to raise rep,you kill the other furlbogs,not the timbermaws.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Meilosh has the recipes. Dont let the fact that he is a tailor trainer fool you. just click "Browse your good". You need to be "Friendly" to buy the +25 to 2H enchant & "Honored" to buy the +15 enchant.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is a proper pain in the arse to do. Best bet is group up or form a raid with other poor unfortunate enchanters and just grind til your head hurts and you can't stand the sight of furbolgs anymore!

Blizzard really have it in for enchanters... 225+ trainer in Uld and now this. Oh well, back to the grind :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

2h or 1h weaps?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Increase your Timbermaw rep and you probably can buy this

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Friend (lvl60 rogue) told today, that he done from unfriendly to honored in 9 hours by killing furbolgs in felwood. It's mixed with solo, rate is ~800 honor per hour, and in party with mages, rate is up to 2500 honor per hour. Nice addition is low lvl player, as he is realy good for aggroing furbolgs from large distances.

For rogue (and other melees) there is one problem, you need to hit once every furbolg, or you wont get honor points. For healers it's easier, just heal all mages/warlocks, and you are fine.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

not high enough to use the enchant yet (im at 250) but i did it.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

what is the average price people charge for the 1h enchant?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I am at war (hated) with with the timbermaw furblogs. when i grind them, it says my rep with them is increasing but my rep bar keeps increasing to the right. doesnt this mean that im am getting more hated. shouldnt it be decreasing? or once at war with them, can i not gain rep with them?

Edited, Mon Oct 3 09:11:05 2005

Комментарий от Jmnero

1.13.2
I grinded out the rep until honored while I was leveling. Just so everyone knows, this and the 2h +25 enchant isn't at the vendor yet.
Despite the site saying it is available in phase 1, it isn't. Pretty sure it is either phase 4 or 5 when they are available.

Комментарий от DcolonRage

This and other enchants are coming to content phase 3 of Classic, February 12.

Комментарий от Muffpotter

Crusader vs Agility?

For a (Fury) Warrior, Crusader still beats out Agility easily, especially on longer fights allowing for a more even and average uptime. Looking at my guilds logs, the average uptime seems to be about 30% for dual-wielders, so that's an average 30 strength or 60 AP over the course of a fight, not counting overlaps. Two Agility enchants give you 1.5% crit and 1.5% dodge, which even for tanks isn't worth it over Crusaders.

For rogues, things are a lot closer. 30 AP on average + more with overlap, versus 30 AP and 1% crit flat. Personally I would not bother replacing Crusader with Agility unless you swim in Gold, but for newly aquired weapons Agi is a safer bet, as fun as those double proc burst moments can be.