Вдруг кому пригодится...
Если две одноручки, эффект стакается, если от разных пушек, если второй раз от одной и той же пушки, то эффект обновится.
Шанс прока с хита=скорость оружия*1.82 посчитано в далеком 2006 игроками ВОВ
Быстрее оружие = меньше шанс прока с хита, медленнее оружие = чаще прок.

Комментарий от holydudez

выпал менее чем за час фарма чароплетов в Башне.

Widely considered one of the best PVP enchants for warriors available - one generally either gets Crusader or a weapon chain, or disarm-immune gloves and Crusader.

The +200str proc is 400 attack power for warriors and 200 attack power for rogues. Dual-wielders who choose to enchant both weapons can and often will get both weapons to proc, for an 800 (warrior) or 400 (rogue) attack power boost.

Комментарий от 7187

I had to farm for about 14 hours before I got this. It only drops off the spellbinders and they are only in the tower off the road, although you will occasionally find one walking down south away from the tower. Easily farmable with a mage, rogue or lock.

Комментарий от 7968

An often farmed formula. Crusader is one of the few enchants that is actually worth it, and still cheap. Great for tanking as a warrior, and rogues when grinding.

Most people grind for days and days. This formula has a 0.01% drop rate. Many people think that then if they kill 1k of these Spellbinder mobs (found @ 54,23 in WPL) they'll eventually get this (as it's not only a great enchant, it sells for a pretty penny too!) This is not true, as like with all drops, every mob is a 0.01% drop rate. So, dropping is PURE luck. Have fun ;)!

Комментарий от Vargh

Best enchant for a main hand weapon, as a Rogue Agility is nice on off-hand.

Комментарий от 8421

I have grinded this so much. Spellbinders spawn 3 on bottom and 3 on top of the tower. Then there are about 2-4 that spawn along the road to the tower also. There may be Avengers, but just kill them and eventually Spellbinders will spawn there too. I grinded this place for about 12 hours once and it never dropped. I got one crummy blue that sold for like 60g =/ I went back another day and got it to drop in about 3 hours. Sold for about 450g. Now they sell for around 250-300g.

Комментарий от 8004

as many people said, the spellbinders have an extremely low drop rate on this. some people prefer to just buy it off the ah, but i think farming this pattern is worth it.
also, investing money in this enchant will give great returns. i've seen people charging lots of gold + mats for this enchant.

Комментарий от 8491

The enchant itself is awesome. If you plan on farming for this... please use caution. There is usully always someone there. But from personal experience. Please be nice, if you see someone farming it right now. Just come back to the tower later and farm it. Alliance or Horde. If you see someone there, they have probably been there for a long time trying to get it. I know when Im farming it, its a pain having a rouge or somthing start attacking you. But usully when someone sees me farming it, they wave and go on, even if they are of the oposite faction. So if you see somene there, dont attack them, or even try to start farming it along side someone else thats not in your party, its just inpolite.

Комментарий от SeriusJones

For an enchanter:

I tried to farm for this, but on my server this place was overcamped and the spawns were fast and unreliable (lots of dying). I would recommend buying this on the Auction House rather than farm for it.

For a farmer:

Some place like Tyr's Hand may be reliable cash-wise... But if you have your heart set on finding this, kill the one type of mob that drops it (Scarlet Spellbinder). The best spawn for this is a small tower, at the top of this arrow shaped cluster of pinpoints on this map: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=4494. Good Luck.

Комментарий от Stimps

This enchant drops from Scarlet Spellbinders - level 57/58 non elites in WPL (link: https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=4494)

I've just had my third enchant drop from the spellbinders... after 1982 kills, which gives a drop rate of approximately 0.15%.

The first 2 dropped relatively quickly (after a total of 500 kills or so) but it's taken a lot of farming for this latest one to show up.

My only advice for farming this enchant is to make sure you have the tower to yourself; try to stagger your kills to avoid all 3 spellbinders respawning together; and to take out Durgen (top of the tower) as soon as you can, as he's a bit of a pain with his stuns.

It's pretty straightforward to keep the spellbinders under control - they use frostbolts, slow, and a form of frost nova.

Комментарий от qagmire

I was just grinding in Tyr's Hand on my hunter, and this dropped off of a Scarlet Archmage.

It looks like 2.0.3 added some new drop locations!

Комментарий от Fendryl

Ya, a guildmate mentioned the other night getting one off a Scarlet Curate (I believe that was the type) in Tyr's hand as well. Someone else mentioned it dropping off Scarlet Crusaders now too.

Комментарий от 5094

The drop chance seems to be buffed after 2.0.3, as a guildmate of mine mentioned grinding 5 of those in a couple of hours... A couple of days in a row.

Комментарий от 8486

Note that players over 60 get reduced benefit from this enchant (and all other pre-expansion procs).

Комментарий от 27334

Enchantment Glow: Faint white.
Alike Enchant Glow: None?

Комментарий от 31625

Got 2 of them in 10 mins from spellbinders in wpl.

Комментарий от druidei

Anybody knows how much it aprox. cost to buy an Crusader enchant?

Комментарий от 34994

cleared the tower on 50 seconds :( I want more places that drops it.

Комментарий от 36228

I was leveling my BE pally in WPL and was clearing the tower in the North Eastern Corner with all the Scarlet Crusader mobs and it dropped off the 4th guy I killed. I just laughed when I saw it because it's worth has dropped so much since TBC came out.

Комментарий от 23939

Does anyone know if this is rec lvl 35 or so? Like some of the enchants have become after TBC

Комментарий от Raynn

I'm sitting here in shock, because I had set in my mind I'd be there farming for about 2-3 hours. I got it on my very first kill.

Комментарий от Lagato

Dropped for me after about 40 kills, along with an Assassination Blade. Happy days on Draka...

Комментарий от w0rf

Can anyone tell me if Crusader will proc off certain spells such as Hamstring or Rend?

Комментарий от 42037

Just got this yesterday after about 1hr of farming. I almost gave up due to the slow respawn. It is about 7min with 6-7 spellbinders to kill each round. Not to mention fighting with other farmers. Luckily I got it to drop before I gave up. I spent another 1hr hoping to get a 2nd one, never dropped.

Комментарий от 26605

The above coordinates are correct (54,23) for purposes of finding the Spellbinders; you may come across a couple on your way in, but this is where the vast majority are. Was able to acquire the recipe in about 2-3 hours given the poor spawn rate. Took 116 kills (about 0.8% rather than the 0.4% norm).

Комментарий от Hellaciouss

I don't know if it's just me or what, but the proc rate seems to have been nerfed into oblivion. I've been killing things for an hour and it hasn't procced for me once, and I an duel wielding it. Can anyone else confirm this?

Комментарий от Phioner

If you are going to grind this in TBC, I suggest you to head to EPL and to kill archmages in Tyr's hand. They are easily soloable if you are 70lvl, you resist a lot of their spells. I got mine from the 3rd archmage I killed. Good luck, it's worth to grind this.

Комментарий от 46402

I am a lvl 53 hunter and in WPL I would love to get this thing bacause I usually see it in ah for about 100-120 Gold on my Realm:Thorium Brotherhood, I have the Weapon Formula's for : Icy,Firey,Unholy,Spirit,Lesser BS and minor BS I am still trying to get the Blue glow +6 and +7 though. I will hed out to WPL and just start ramsacking the Scarlets there and try to get this maybe i will get lucky ?

Комментарий от 50172

I am lucky all of the sudden it droped from... Scarlet Curate!!!! This is real! This is not just 2 mobs drop rate as all players are thinking. I was farming it a loooooooooooong time ago for a looooooooooooong time it didn't drop before. Now i got this from Scarlet Curate. Was farming in Tyr's Hand ^^.

Комментарий от 49480

just killed 10 archmages and got it :X

Комментарий от 47084

I've killed more than 150 archmages at EPL,but the formula didn't drop,but instead of that i had 2 epic drops:https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=1168 and https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=2246!!

Комментарий от 52304

i got one on the very first kill. then i stopped. first 100% droprate while farming i ever encountered in this game :D

Комментарий от rmk1999

i must have gotten very lucky with this...i'm reading all these comments about killing 1000's of mobs for it. I got it 3 days in a row all within the 4th clearing of the tower. Sold 115g each time. I gave up now that the tower has gotten crowded(nice world pvp though) and went to farming the mats for it. A righteous orb averages at 35g a piece on my realm...i've seen it jacked up and listed at 110g(which was nice cause listing mine at 75g looked like a good deal). Can't sell the actual enchant for the life of me, but the mats never stay on AH for more than an hour or so.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I farmed this tonight in one session. The drop happened for me in about 2 hours, maybe that will give you some hope. I had a friend finishing Of love and family while I did it, so I took one short break to heal him. I was about to give up cause a rogue and another druid had just shown up to farm as well, but it dropped on one of the last spawns I got on my way down the tower. So happy!

The spawns who drop this, the Scarlet Spellbinders, are non elite mage types level 56-58. Low health, but they can do some not insignificant damage against a lvl 60 if there are 3 of them. They use almost all frost spells, including frost bolt and frost nova. High frost resist and you will take almost no damage. Be prepared for the slowing and immobolizing effects. They will frost nova you and run to range, and then cast frost bolts. They die fairly quickly tho. In cat form it was taking about 10 hits to down one (assuming starting from stealth and behind, I am a feral druid, well equipped btw).

There are three spawns at both the bottom and top of the tower. They aggro together when you attack, and all three were taking me down to about 20% health if I killed them without healing. There is also a spawn that circles the base of the tower, inside the wall, but not on the interior. There is one more spawn that spawns south on the road, and patrols up to the named scarlet hunter, and back down to a camp of scarlet mages. Other adds that you might see insider the tower are a named captain (not elite) who is melee with a 3 sec stun and has a bit of armor. He spawns faster then the spellbinders, and starts at the top of the tower, and patrols from there, down to the base, then out front, where he stops by each of the stationary tower guards, before going back to the top of the tower. There is also another Scarlet avenger who circles the base of the tower along the same root as the spellbinder. The avengers are fast melee (duel wielders) with some armor and no special attacks I saw. There are two guards in from of the tower who are also avengers, but you can avoid their aggro once inside the tower, if you are level 60.

As said before, they do frost damage with movement impairing effects. After taking them down the first time at the base, then killing the named on the stairs, and then killing all three on top, I found if I waited for the repop, they could be killed one at a time as the respawned, limiting the damage taken by having the two in the background. Also, killing the named as soon as he popped help keep him from sneaking up on me. At about 15% health the spellbinders try to run, so be ready. This isn't too much of a problem on top of th tower, but at the base they can run out front and aggor the two guards. The avengers and named don't try to run.

Going to Use the pattern, so I am very happy it dropped, saving me 300g (the current price on Kilrogg). If I do go back, and find another, I'll probably auction it for 50g, 150 Buyout, because I believe our server's price is a bit absurd...

Happy hunting, hope this helps!

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm now working my way towards six thousand kills. Still no drop. Die Blizzard.

Комментарий от Thottbot

and thinking about past drops you were farming for... were you constantly lucky against the odds?

after killing 66 there is a 10% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 140 there is a 20% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 223 there is a 30% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 319 there is a 40% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 433 there is a 50% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 572 there is a 59% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 752 there is a 70% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 1005 there is a 80% chance you'll get at least one
after killing 1438 there is a 90% chance you'll get at least one

For the guy that got this after the 15th kill, he had a 2.37% of taht happening.
For the guy that got this after the 27th kill, you had a 4.23% chance of that happening

for the guy who got this after 550 kills, you were in the 58.55% chance of getting it by then, consider yourself fairly lucky

Комментарий от Thottbot

When will it ever end? No one cares how fast you got it or if you really did get it in 27kills or 500 kills its not gonna discourge most theyl try it anyways, most of you lie as well yes its possible but does it really matter? save your "i got it after 10 kills" cause no one cares not after about 100 other people saying somethin on the lines of that, that goes for all long awaited drops. just post the info, let a few give thier exp on how fast or long it takes to drop and leave it at that, its even a waste of time for me typing this.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I was just grinding in Tyr's Hand on my hunter, and it dropped off of a Scarlet Archmage.

It looks like 2.0.3 added some new drop locations!

Комментарий от Thottbot

I was a level 54 and was doing the quest that takes you to the top of the tower to loot a box for some chain quest. I went with my guild, I was in “The Holy Knights” at the time and we had a full party, we killed all the guards on the way up and random stuff dropped. People in the guild said that this was the only place that the crusader enchant dropped, it did not and no one was surprised.
The next day I was questing in the western plaguelands and someone ask me if I would help them with a quest, it was the same one that I had done the day before, so I said yeah I know where it is and I would help. We went to the tower killed all the guards got the quest item then started looting the bodies and a green formula came up in the window, it was the crusader enchant, I expressed greed, he expressed greed, I won. Then another formula came up in the window, it was the crusader enchant, I expressed greed, he expressed greed, I won.
My heart was beating so hard, I ask him if he had completed the quest? He said he had, I said “g2g good luck and have fun” and left. I don’t think he knew what the crusader enchant was. I announced the good news in guild chat and everyone expressed how lucky I was and “gratz”. A little while later I thought, what am I going to do with two of these, and what would be the right thing. So I looked back in chat and found the guy’s name that I was questing with, whispered him and told him that we had found two very high level enchanting formulas and that I was going to send him one and “don’t sell it cheap”.
The enchanter in our guild that I run instances with just made 300 and I still had it in the bank, so I gave him the other copy.

I think I am too nice for this game.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

275th Spellbinder dropped it upstairs.

** Update **

I'm now up to 1002 kills without a second drop, I'd say 725 kills without a drop is a pretty bad run....anyone had worse luck? :o)

Edited, Mon Jun 13 20:31:59 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got in an aurgument with a guildie about where this drops. Have only read off the Spellbinders in the Tower in WP. Anyone else heard different? Been in this dam tower 2 1/2 lvl's and have close to 900 kills without a single drop.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

We got Math people playing WoW?.. go study! lol

At least you guys know your math,.... that's a good thing

Комментарий от Allakhazam

title says it all... 60 hunter on dark iron and farming for 8 days now... NOTHING.

pretty pissy though cause once corpses disappeared before i could loot them and another time i had no chat lag or any other lag, but when i reached down to loot, nothing happened, i walk away for 40 seconds and come back... and it says nothing to loot. suspicious $%^& going on.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

cleared the tower twice and got this formula twice, my guild enchanters will be very happy. i'm a 60 war with a TuF, they were very easy to kill. On the top floor, instead of going up the stairs, select the spellbinder directly above you when you're at the final set of steps to the top. Just jump and you can hit the spellbinder and it will come by itself. Then you're just left with the other 2, easy =)
hope that helps

Edited, Sat May 6 15:16:27 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

1st kill 1st droop i love you blizz :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

well a friend of mine invite me to go with him to farm the crusader and i said ok i have nothing to lets go....

so we went to the tower started killing those humans up and downn down and up...
and the message apears

restart in 15:00 minutes..

and i said "^&*! a restart"

my friend said do not stress its only 2 or 3 min and the server comes up again..

the server went off 2min later we log in in front of the tower... started killing again those spellbinders.. and i said "dude im going to bed im tired of these &*!@" *10min after server restart*

he said" ok iam gonna be here just a little"

just when i reached undercity i said "yessssssssssssss"
i droped

did one crusader on myself just for helping him....
lucky me lucky him

so w8 for server restart like we did

Комментарий от Allakhazam

OMG! I FARMED FOR 45 MINUTES AND GOT 4 FREAKING FURMUALAS! (plus random greens and a blue)! EVERY1 HAS GOT TO TRY THIS! EDIT: sold for 2150g :P (sold for 537.5g each)

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 12:56pm PST by codydude

Комментарий от Allakhazam

246 kills, ~5 hours, it dropped.

Had a little competition with other horde players, so I blew shards shadowburning the spawns before they could tag them and they left within 15 minutes.

Also got 11 stacks of runecloth, 15g in silver loot, 6 or 7 greens, a Two of Beasts card, 15-20 greys, and 2 Thorium Lockboxes.

A 63 elite occasionally spawns on top of the tower.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I got this to drop for me today, was ofcourse happy, but also surprised, since it dropped off a Scarlet Archmage in Tyr's Hand. Perhaps their loottables have been changed due to TBC coming or something.. But you don't hear me complaining :)

Midknight (60 Human Mage on Bloodhoof (EU))

Комментарий от Allakhazam

got it on my 4th kill , i was farming in hearthglen and moving back to spellbinders, killed 4 and it droped. i was lucky because i tryed it lots of times now and still no lucky again.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This dropped while I was soloing AH... lol. Got it for 5g! I had been looking for it forever on AH and had never seen it below 100g. It was my lucky day I guess. I don't care about the nerf, if you are under lvl 60 this is the same enchant it was before BC. Haven't seen one on AH since (2 weeks ago).

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Decided to farm this because I was bored and theres no way Im buying the thing for the price it is on Lightninghoof.(300g) Got it on the 5th spellbinder. Guess I was lucky that night. But guys don't give up hope if you are farming this, it will drop.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Bull^&*! if you ask me lol,

Been grinding this shiz for 2 days now. haven't got 1 single crusader.
Only got Three of warlords and some crappy green shoulders.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Took me about 4 hours of solid killing to get mine to drop this very minute. Hang in there and it will come eventually. I'm lvl 70 so I could kill them fairly quickly so it was tedious and slow waiting for respawn. in the end I just began to surf different forums trying to find different enchanting "drop" recipes that I could proceed with after getting this, while waiting for respawns :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

our group of 4 guildies happened to be passing a tower, I mentioned it only had spellbinders insider which we didn't need for our quest. We dicided to kill them anyways since our priest said they dropped the enchant.

The tower couldn't have had more than 7 spellbinders inside it yet we came away with the enchant nonetheless = D

We all kind of laughed and didn't realize how lucky we were (except for our priest of course).

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If you got 2 in 5 hours, just move right along. I've been farming for 4 days and not a dang thing! :(

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Oh, and they drop of any spellbinder, not just the bottom ones.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well, i farmed that tower quite alot, i must admit... But when i didnt actually wanted to farm it, when some horde was ganking in HG, i simply ran away from them and cleared the tower.
Result: 1 drop from bottom 3 dudes, and 1 more from top dudes.

Crazy %^&*.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Took me about 4 hours total. Dropped off one that was level 58.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i got i after half an hour of farming ..... thats easy money :P

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Feeling mischievous I let my enchanter put the crusader on a copper axe (lvl 4) just to find out what happends when a lvl 4 warrior gets +100 strength.
I had'nt calculated on the reactions from my fellow players though - some where amused others furious. Made it worth while :)
...well what happends when the Crusader procs for a lvl 4 warrior - well he wins the fight at hand in the next blow whaaaaaam!
Gonna sell the axe to the highest bidder when I get tired of it. 50g ?

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 8:04am PST by baronbokaj

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Dropped after 4 kills

Комментарий от Allakhazam

if anyone has vitality to boots enchantment recipe i will trade crusader recipe. let me know.

Edited, Apr 17th 2007 8:34am by Tyrainius

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I dont know I think this is total BS . I been killin these Scarlet Spellbinders for hours and nuthin and at lvl 54 adds become a real prob Ive died 4 times already

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Yeah, so I went to the Scarlet Spellbinders looking for krol blade or orb of deception and ended up getting this instead :D....Fell off of the 9th or 10th one I killed.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Hey i was trying to get this formula for my enchanter but i can only find a few spellbinders in the tower and 2 on the way there and to kill the ones in the tower i need to get a group is there and others anywhere or are the spellbinders just very rare?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Farmed one in 10 minutes. Sorry! Was the third one i've seen drop too.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I've spent two days farming this, and have had 3 of them basically stolen from me. People will come to the tower, and maybe 30 minutes into them being there, they will get it to drop.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Currently plowing trough them quite fast, it takes getting used to it, but then it's not so hard at all.

Took me nearly 4 hours to get it btw.

Edited, Thu May 26 02:11:06 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i dont know if its on a timer or something, but its sure isnt random.. if it drops one night, it wont drop until the next night.. thats how it seem to be working for me.. i have found 6 so far.. after farming for baout 3 weeks.. 2 hours a day.. around 12am-2am, when the pally NPC come fight some mobs there.. some kinda Role Play, not sure.. at first i thought it was for a quest..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Found two in a 5 hour span :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Edited, Sat Dec 10 14:20:04 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Sigh, 143Kills- no drop...
Uldum server

Комментарий от Allakhazam

just found it the 7th time :O

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got this after killing 49 mobs and it droped again on a pop leaving the tower. Guess good this always happen to thoes who wait. Good luck everyone.

Sold: 688g
Silvermoon

Edited, Sat Jun 10 00:18:51 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Can somebody give the components instead of blablabla of his life ?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What is frustrating is the Spawn rate of those Spellbinders.
I'm at 2.5 hours of Grinding them, no formula yet.
But 15g, and 35 Heavy runecloth bandages (70Runecloth), 5 Greys and a Travlers Backpack.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

im so sad.... all you guys talking about 1st kill getting it

(bet more than half of you are making up your story)

but i had one day to make 200g... so i could respec and buy buy a wep i wanted so i could run naxx with mu guild so i prayed to god that this would drop and i could get my money and respec and get my wep... so i grinded my brain out, i did for all day....

nothing

a new gold and a like 7 or 8 stacks of runecloth

i missed naxx because i wasnt spec'd right and for missing it my guild kicked me... thats the day i lost everything.. saddest day ever.

i guess im unlucky.. or god hates me

i still pray and keep hope but i realize now that u cant rely on chance for drops...

(sorry if this seems melodramatic, im just so sad)

DAMN YOU CURSADER ! *drops on knees* DAMN YOU!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Dropped after about 8 hours of off and on farming.
*learns*.

Edited, Jan 9th 2007 11:47pm by JesseTyler

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I was grinding lockpicking in Tyr's Hand. One of the mobs resisted so I decided to kill it. Then that dropped. Didn't even know it only drops from two mobs in the game, since I'm not an enchanter.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Sorry.. But.. Someone know if they also dropp this Epic: Jeweled Amulet of Cainwyn !

Would be good to know! thx 4 info

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I just stopped by @ the tower when I was on my way to heartglen, went in, AoE on bottom floor and it dropped :D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

has anyone tried getting averages as to the healing done by the proc?

Not asking for the exact number, just an average...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

bought on of sum1 for 180g (The patttern obviously) rekon it was a good deal?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I finally learned about the Spellbinders last night, and I went to try it out.

A rogue was camping the spawns in the tower, so I killed the few that patrol down the road, and left after about 5 kills.

I woke up this morning only about 300g away from my epic mount, so I decided to go back to the tower.

No one was there, so I camped the tower.

Killed the bottom 2, went to the top, killed the 3, came back down, and killed those 2 about 3 or 4 more times.

So, on about my 15th kill, the formula dropped. =O

Teleported back to Org and popped it up on the Auction House for 400g, 500g BO

I'll post back if it sells

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Farmed this for a day or so, got it on the second day after an hour or so and nearly #$%^ myself.

Sold for 700g on Lightninghoof.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

been farming this for over an hour =( dont got any luck...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Farmed overall for 3 hours tonight and got it. Had to compete against a Hunter though he kept to the upstairs and I got downstairs. 2 hours passed before he left and then a Mage came along for a half hour before either logging or hearthing.

30 minutes later it drops. Going to farm a little longer since I got the place to myself for the slight chance of a second drop people mention here. I'll edit if it happens (though deep down I doubt it)

Edit: 10 minutes later Stonegrip Gauntlets dropped and a 60 Warrior and Rogue come in and kill the mobs outside, taking the downstairs area and leaving upstairs for me. 'Least I got something else :D! Then Arcane Pads dropped a couple minutes later before I decided to hearth to get some sleep.

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 12:18am by Sachio

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 12:22am by Sachio

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I was there thought that i have a bad luck with drops overall.
And then after my 23rd kill an droped.
I was really happy so i sat down and ate it.

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OK, I have had three drop for me in the last three times I have been to the tower. Did they up the drop rate?

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I got this on my party's second spellbinder kill.

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found this in 5 mins. I was amazed at myself.

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Not sure how many I killed, but it took roughly 18 manhours for us to get it.

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I calculated some.. and with 0.18% drop rate you have to kill max 556 spellbinders if you are the only one farming there.. otherwise someone else got it when it dropped

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i went out there Saturday Morning got one off the second one i killed at bottom of tower. I immedietly rushed to sell irt for 325G. Came back about 5 hours later. Another dropped off the 2nd one i killed!. Sold that one for 300G. came back next morning and ANOTHER one from the second one i killed Sold that one for 300g. Epic Mount is MINE!. someone at bliz must love me. P.S lvl 58hunter on dragonblight. Frankyboy.

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Guys..the droprate doesnt change the more guys u kill, does it? its allways gonna be the same, so no matter how many u kill its allways the same 0.018 r whatever it was

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it dropped bout 20 minutes after my last post... FINALLY, after 8 days of farming it.

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253 kills....still nothing
yesra server

400+ kills later it dropped! =) then thanks to you guys mentioning multiple drops after you get the first one I killed another mob and it dropped a second crusader.
Sold the first one for 200g and gave the other to my gl for the guild

Edited, Nov 15th 2006 at 7:47am PST by merogin

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been farming for 3-4hrs now...still no drop. a blue and like 6 greens have dropped, 7.2 stacks of runecloth have dropped. About 13g too. Not good money, but I'm not complaining, I'll be back here tomorrow probably, since now a pally is camping me :(.

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1 Thorium pants plan, 1 Two of warlords, 14 alterac swiss, 9 stacks of runecloth, 14gold and 4 hours later no enchant

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got it on like the 20th kill just after my farming pary disbanded and i got all the money to myself

btw if u get one they sell like hot cakes

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Me and my friend were farming Runecloth at Tyr's and I'm like 'Want to give crusader drop a shot?' and she's like 'sure.' An hour or so later, it dropped ^^ 'twas verry happy a time.

You can fid it on the auction house on Steemwheedle Cartel EU server for 275g BO and 245g Bid :) 'tis being sold under Zygomatic.

~Servie with a smile ;)

Edited, Jan 13th 2007 5:12pm by Deathirm

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Found 10 in 2 days of the cs's found one my furst try went back got 3 more that night. the next day stayed there til i got 5 then went back for 1 more laterm doesnt take long at all think i got the 5 in less than 3 hours, but they dont sell so good on my realm only about 95g each and even that takes some time to find someone.

Edited, Apr 17th 2007 8:27am by Tyrainius

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Someone please tell me what mob dropped this

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Scarlet Spellbinder... woot, time to sell for 300g... second Spellbinder I killed.

Edited, Thu Feb 10 23:09:09 2005

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on about kill 1000-1100 still no drop guess ill just keep camping :{

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Found it after farming with my friend for ca. 1h.
Time to lvl my enchanting skill to 300 ;)

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Scarlet Spellbinders are the only mob that drops this.

Personally over three days I've been at this now 16 hours killing as many of these as I can, not a sniff of it yet, I've even put a ticket in to the GM to see if it exsists on Terenas any more.....

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I would reccomend no one buy this enchant for your weapon. Blizzard has aparently changed it so it hardly ever procs anymore. I had it before this recent patch and it proced fairly often but now that I have gotten it for my new dagger I have been fighting mobs for one hour and it has yet to proc. Just a simple warning

Edited, Thu May 19 02:50:25 2005

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FINALLY !
Ok after litterally 30ish hours of doing this on and off for two weeks it dropped after about 2 hours of farming on Sunday.

A thought that might help future hunters.......
I realised last night that during my time of farming for this 3 dropped, since then my one AND another has dropped too.

ALL (yes you are reading this right) of them dropped off the mobs downstairs in the tower.

I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, I spent 30 hours mostly farming the upstairs, it wasn't till last night I thought about it on reflection they all dropped downstairs.

I hope this information becomes usefull to some poor soul who wants to find this......

And Magicjar you must be doing something wrong then, I put this on one of my friends pally's 2 hander and it procs left right and indeed center, sometimes 2-3 times in a fight, get your agility boosted so you get the crit strikes increased.

Edited, Tue May 24 03:24:14 2005

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455 Spellbinders in about 10.5 hours.

No crusader drop.

I will now cry myself to sleep.

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just got one! continued to kill for about 30min and got another one ! :)

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oops

Edited, Nov 24th 2006 7:23am by DrGamut

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Proudmoore Alliance has 5 on the AH, lowest being 80g now and it's not selling. Blizz announced it would be nerfed for players above 60, and of course new shinies in the expansion means this isn't worth a penny now. :-(

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Dropped for me just today ^-^ along with +9STR to bracers, both were within an hour time. :: sigh :: makes up for the 3+ hours I spent on other days. >.>

-Belker

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I have cleaned the tower 5 times now of every mob... still no drop.

8 times now.... still no drop.

yes... I am at the tower (54,23) in WPL

and on the 10th clearing of the tower... wha la...

Edited, Feb 28th 2007 1:14am by Dramus

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Oh! NOW it drops! I farmed for days before BC! Nothing! And now by some stupid fluke two dropped for my roommate and me today within half an hour from one another... oh and two or three greens... go figure.

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bloodcraft, i have a friend that'd kill u... he's killed tons of em and no drop.

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since there's a LOT of different opinions on how often this one procs,
how much it heals, etc .. here's a small short video,
that will definately get you up to speed, just on how good this one is:

http://files.sisterhoodoflillith.com/world_of_warcraft_-_crusader_enchant.wmv

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10,000+ kills on blackrock server and NOTHING... only gotten 2 greens and 1 blue (which was only a card) im just about rdy to give up and just buy the damn thing!

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Either they upped the droprate or I'm very lucky. Farmed the tower for about 45 minutes yesterday and got one, and then came back today to kill some time while in the AB queue and got another one in about 10 minutes. This is on Lothar btw.

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Read all the posts below if you want to learn absolutely nothing

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i was farming for like 10 minutes and it drop,next morning i was again there farming like for 10 minutes and it drops again :P lucky mofo

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Decided to kill them in WPl.

so i killed 665 none dropped.

Next thirty seven i killed all dropped crusader recipe. I didn't know what to do!
Within 10 minutes of being in my home town i sold them all to this one guy for 8000g a peice, nice money.

I went back the next day, none within the first 665, but lo and behold the next 37 dropped some more! wow!

So now i have 6019 epic mounted, 195 boe epics (Thats all boe epics fyi), and six billion gold, thanks to these babies

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I got 3 in a row. LOL IM LUCKY! I was there for about 20 minutes and ij got mreo then 1500g worht!

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after farming the tower for 4 hours i got one to drop kinda a long time thou :P

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I have been farming these all day now with my 70 hunter and still no drop...although i have had and epic ring drop so a little bonus! Myrmidon's signet

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Drops from Scarlet Spellbinders. =)

Very low drop chance though.. =(

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dropped 2 in about 5 hours, now i'm still farming ( about 25hours ) and no more >_<

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Went there today, dropped on my 5th Spellbinder.
Pure luck I guess

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Has anyone parsed this? My guess is 5-10% but I am looking for hard numbers.

Thanks
H

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It dropped yesterday for me, downstairs as another horde was about to jump my camp. Later that day an old guild mate had farmed 2, maybe they increased the drop rate, maybe it was bugged, might be worth trying now anyways.

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I went there and killed 10 to 20 with my friend and it droppedd =)
Im only level 52 and he 57 but we found it easy to farm them

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Got it on my 4th kill on top of the tower
i was stunned

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Oki this is my story of getting it (or my partymemb got it ) : We were out and doing the kill quest when you kill the guy at the tower with the spellbinders. I asked him what proffs he had (keept in mind that crusader could drop) , tail/ench he replied. Continued and told him about crusader and he wanted to try some , BOOOM 3rd kill it drops.

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Been here all morning....managed to keep everyone else out of the tower.

Edit: Wee, finally got one. Went out to turn in some scourgestones, decided to pay the tower a visit. Dropped on the third kill.

Edited, Mon Aug 15 06:19:44 2005

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I managed to get 2 Crusader in 3 days (the first one I have learnt and the 2nd one in my bank) after a guildy asked me to learn it. My lvl 60 undead mage have killed about 135 Spellbinders so far. Is it because the drop rate has improved? Maybe I will farm it again these 2 days to check out this.

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Went to farm it for the guild,
Killed possibly 20 or so spellbinders, which was ridiculously easy for a 60 rogue with imp sap.
Took maybe 30mins...most of the time spent waiting for them to respawn

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trust my luck, i spent a week farming and ANOTHER one dropped for my alt!

selling now /w abankaltlol outland EU

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i thought that i should try to get 1 or 2 of these today so i headed to the tower to grind some... :D i killed all in the tower and got a couple of spaulders for lvl 55 (im lvl 70) XD. and i tryed again and it dropped on the third spellbinder on the top of the tower... now im gonna try to get one more to sell :D it sells for about 100g+ on my server.

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I find messages that say things like - I got this on my second drop...brag,brag,brag - really annoying. This helps nobody.

I farmed the tower with 6 Spellbinders for 4 nights. I was ready to give up and thought it was Bull! BUT success - it finally dropped - so yes it does drop eventually. But they don't drop anything else that interesting.

Good luck :)

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took 1300 total but finally dropped :P

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I farmed a total of about 4-5 hours and about 100-50 kilss before it finally dropped. Just keep running up and down in tower to kill the Spellbinders before they spawn 3 at a time..

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i have over 16 hours in this spot and yet nothing :(

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5 days 39 hours, had 5 picked up by people that just come in and start fighting. :(. Normally it is like their first KIll. BTW I hate Them all.

Basically i think i am priming the spawn for the jerks that come through and kill.

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Can barely sell em for 150g on my f*cking server (excuse me) and it's god damn annoying since I have 2

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Got 3 enchants in 2 days lst year,what do you think about?

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Farmed this formula for 15 hours straight today.

I got 40g in coins, 20g from vendor, 500 runecloth but, guess what, no crusader.

Hurray for my luck!

EDIT: It just dropped, after 4 days and roughly 2500 kills.

Edited, Aug 29th 2006 at 3:41am EDT by iotzan

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i see all these ppl have gotten the drop from scarlets spellbinders in EPL but where in EPL cause i'm gonna start farming there on my server cause i need some money!

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Was doing the Mark of the lightbringer quest and just killed some spellbinders in my way and on the 5th one it dropped

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I have camped this and got 1 for myself, and another which I sold. I will camp another one now, they sell hawt!

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well well well.
i'm here since 3 hours and found nothing.
/bored

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I was helping my friend to get some exp. And the pathern dropped from the first mob.

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I got one on the top of the tower :)

/Dotted

Edited, Wed Oct 12 06:03:01 2005

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There is an lvl 63 elite with the spellbinders, or is he just on the balnazzar server? Makes it impossible to solo farm this enchant! (for me anyway)

Edit; The elite was gone when i tried another time.. But it´s still hard as hell for me (a lvl 60 rogue) to take 3 lvl 58 spellbinders all by myself! ;(

Edited, Sun Nov 20 23:28:44 2005

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took me 8 weeks to get this damned thing..almost daily there for hours..

Edited, Mon Dec 5 16:40:08 2005

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ive spent 3 full days farming this $%^&*, no epics, no recipie, a handfull of greens, and a !@#$load of runecloth... seriously thats crap and of course memebers of the same/other faction have to be farming too. Why couldnt blizz get it to drop a lil faster, maby after 500 kills instead of 1000+

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dropped after 1 hour of grinding..that saves me 300g for buying one of the AH

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Well after a month or 2 farming I finally got it ( I didnt farm for it non stop but I did for about 2 weeks, then stopped one week, then farmed non stop again for about 1 weeks )

This took 2 months.
Just have patience and luck :)

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3 hours and 191 runecloth later, it finally dropped.

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200 spellbinders, 16 hours, 342 rune cloth and still nothing.. People keep stealing my mobs! Urg... and to top it off i keep getting killed by some elite guy that spawns at the base of the tower. I hope i get it soon!

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Dropped on my 7th kill. After much debating I decided to train it since I'm an enchanter, but I continued to farm some more since I needed money for my epic mount. Of course since then I've killed about 600 of them and no more have dropped. Also, I just heard a rumor that crusader is going to be a trainable enchantment in TBC (which may or may not be true), but at any rate, it's getting nerfed 4% for each level above 60. :( I think I'm better off just farming Hearthglen.

Edited, Jan 13th 2007 10:57am by Goreash

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This dropped for me in about 15 mins or so : )

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Long-time reader, first-time poster.

When I heard from a coworker I could find Crusader in both WPL and EPL, I decided to drag the level 70 over to kill everyone.

less than a minute, first kill, first drop. made my heart smile. :p

dropped in WPL, by the way, on the spellbinders. can supposedly drop in EPL from the archmages there, but the droprate is much much lower.

- edit -

.. yeah.

just got it again.

on the fourth run now.

Edited, Feb 27th 2007 11:23pm by studioghibli

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I was lucky to get two of these grinding for about 3 hours

and also found an epic in the process ;)

Edited, Wed Mar 30 05:49:39 2005

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2700 kills or so in 2 months farming it and still no recipe, guess my bad luck didnt left me since i had to kill 44 bartender to get my dagger

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been farming these for 3 weeks no formula but i did get a destiny

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Bought this off AH with a B.O. of 2g 75s! Thanks "Tøzen"! I made 290g on that deal:) ROFL :D

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Where exactly DOES it drop? i keep seeing "bla bla it dropped off of spellbinders" WHERE?

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this is BS 300+ kills no drop juss greens and lots of leveling my pets. Such bs,, cant say taht i didnt get my share of gold from it but yes this has been a great waste of my time.

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I usually read everyone comment on how often it drops for them and whatnot.
But I figued what the hell, so im bored right now before server maintainence adn figured I would farm for the forumla. Well I went to WPL to the tower.
And I swear to god, literally first kill I got it. Gonna stick around maybe get anotehr to make soem money. I highly reccomend farming before spending your gold. You just never know

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Got 2 of them to drop in about 20 minutes today...

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Got it today after clearing the tower like 4 times.

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I spent one day farming this, probably killed a hundred or two of them and it finally dropped. A few nice greens fell down along the way too. From what I've seen it takes about 2 days of farming on average to obtain it.

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Dropped for me after killing about 12 to 15 mobs. I was so excited. Never thought it would drop that quickly and was set for a long grind. Glad to have it. Now to get my enchanting to 300 so I can actually use it.

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1300 kills not even ONE, Who are you kidding with 0.17% drop!

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so, what exactely does this enchant DO?
and is it better than lifestealing?

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4 hours, 3 drops ... guess I was just lucky :)

Edited, Mon Oct 10 18:07:49 2005

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Edited, Sat Dec 10 14:13:52 2005

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Is it any idea to have 2 of the enchants. Does it help or is it better to have on one and another enchant on other ? :)

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It took me over the course of 5 days, 979 Spellbinder kills, and 150+ durgen kills(yea he doesn't drop it, but when you farm the tower, he's the annoying fly), and I finally got mine tonight.

I hate that tower.

The good thing about it is, in 1 day, while farming for Crusader, you can collect about 500 runecloth and turn it in for rep. So its a win win.

well, if you end up with crusader it is, other wise it just plain sucks.

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I got it on my VERY FIRST KILL!

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Try grinding at the spellbinder tower in the early morning. Two dropped within 10 minutes of each other at around 6:10 am.

Good $$$!

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I got this to drop off the chickens in elwynn forest, farmed them for about 263 hours and finally got the recipe to drop, they're at the chickens near the house with the defias.

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wee farmed the spellbinders for like 1h - 1.5h and it droped :>

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i was prepared for a long haul of farming for this enchant for my lock (even longer from the sounds of some other posts i saw). so i was very happy when it dropped from only the second kill. more than that, i think i was the only one there. i saw a tauren pass through but that was it.

i don't think it makes a difference, but i got it off a spellbinder from the first tower before the gates to heartglen.

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I read the description. What exactly dodes the enchant do?

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im on azjol-nerub, farmed the tower in north WPL for just about 2 hr and it dropped.

Edited, Dec 11th 2006 2:00pm by OldMisfit

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Well, based on my experience the drop rate seems about right. I farmed for 30 min to an hour 6 or 7 times, probably killed about 200 and finally got this. Now here's the question: Do I sell this? If so, how much? I've seen on AH (on Andorhal server) for 300g buyout usually, but I know people have sold for 400 to 500g. I do need my epic mount...

On the other hand, I'm an enchanter. I could learn it and sell enchants. How much do people usually pay for this enchant?

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if i use dual wield and i enchant both crusader will they stack. for example i can heal two times and get 200 str.

Also which is better +5weapon dmg or crusader on dual weapon

where do i find the mats for this?

Edited, Jan 2nd 2007 10:52pm by itsdaviid

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I just got this from a guy yelling in UC for 60g. I was thinking how i got very lucky and the guy is a idiot. than I checked AH and saw there is 10 formulas with lowest bid price 30g

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH CRUSADER?

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I went to the spot on a whim today and figured I'd go through the tower a couple times and try for it as I've done on and off for a few days now. But today, first group of these spellbinders I kill it drops, must have been my lucky day.

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Cleared the tower about 10 times.... dropped. Theres 6 Scarlet Spellbinders in the tower, and 3 I think out on the path. I just stayed in the tower.
Kept running out of bag space with all the runecloth I was picking up.

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its a nice enchant for twinks but suxs for any1 for 60 and mats aren't as expensive as they use to be but this formula i rarely see on ah or in the trade channel on my server.

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Well I used to farm the scarlet crusader tower alot to get these recipes, but it seems Blizzard has figured out how easy it is and has added a lvl 63 (elite) Healer to nerf the farmining. it is still doable you just have to pull the individual Spellbinders and then CC the clerist.

Edited, May 11th 2007 6:33pm by brokehorizon

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IF anyone want! I have and I'm in Frostwolf server. I'm willing to trade for 12 Arcanite Bars. Name is Valius PST!

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I found the tower to be extremely hard for my level 58 mage.

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Very easy for a 60 mage to farm. Keep dampen magic on. IAE on 3 at bottom, then IAE the 4 at top. Most of the time is spent waiting for repops. Average farm should be about 16 hours according to drop rate. The enchant itself procs 1.5 times a minute on average, I have parsed it over extended periods.

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I was helping a friend with a quest. We went to the tower, killed three mobs out front. It droped for us. I wasn't even trying to find the thing. 2mins of "farming".

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Don't bother buying the scroll for moneymaking, everyone and their cousing has it and prices plummet fast. Say I spent 100g for the scroll and now I would get 10g profit per enchant with AH mats. With all the competition it could take months to sell 10 to cover the cost of the scroll alone. And the time you spend in IF you could be farming gold at higher rate than it brings. Useless

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who does it drop by?

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Dropped in around an hour and a half of killing Scarlet Spellbinders.

Spellbinders are located in the tower that is near the entrance of Hearthglen along the road.

Edited, Sep 12th 2006 at 9:17pm EDT by muffinlolz

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5 weeks of grinding finally got the !@#$er

proud ex-enchanter of daggerspine eu

Edited, Oct 1st 2007 10:31pm by venomoutland

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been here little over 2 hours still no drop...

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after grinding for 1hr i was on the point of giving up, after clearing the tower and sitting afk outside for abit (eating lunch) i came back to see the whole tower respawned.

i thought to myself: " bah, what the hell "

after nailing the 3rd spellbinder i nabbed the formula, went upstairs and finished the rest, i got a 2nd :D i went insane, thats my alts epic mount bought and payed for :)

Edited, Apr 18th 2007 5:08pm by Andyn

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I found this on my 20-30th person, me and a undead Rogue teamed up and took turns killing the guys.

Shocked how quick I got it. Gave it to a guildy friend for lending me 200g cash to help purcahse a Destiny for me ( Which btw rules with crusader on it ).

He was sure happy to finally get crusader on his list of enchantments. =)

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Do it cost 60-90 g ? : /

Hi BTW Lillith

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I got the pattern for the enchant off the second spellbinder I ever killed. Maybe this'll give you guys some hope.

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Got it off the 3rd kill whilst waiting for AV, off to IF to sell :D
EDIT: Put up for 500g 600g BO, sold within a few minutes, could probably have gotten away with more...

Edited, Sat May 27 08:50:32 2006

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i am grinding now for 70 hours non stop for 7 times so in total 490 hours in %^&*nig grindnig and didnt get it(not even blue or nice green dropped for me)

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i got this last night on Dragonmaw server.
killed about 20 or so mobs :)

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Just got it today... Was running to the tower, got attacked by a Spellbinder, killed it.. Got it to drop first kill.

Qwikshot, 60 Troll Hunter of Hellscream

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Wow am i lucky I go and see if it will drop i kill 2 mobs and it drops ; P.

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im a lvl 60 rogue on dragonblight, 300 chanting, 300 tailoring...
i have crusader on both my daggers...
i am not sure whether or not it is supposed to start the timer over, because sometimes it does reset and start again at 15 sec of strength...and sometimes it doesnt.
and now for the cut and paste for those of you who are incapable of following links.
*quote from allakhazam*
"Permanently enchant a melee weapon so that often when attacking in melee it heals for 75 to 125 and increases Strength by 100 for 15 seconds.
Effect 1: Enchant Item Permanent
Components: Enchanting: 4x Large Brilliant Shard, 2x Righteous Orb
Required: Runed Arcanite Rod"

it seems to proc a considerable amount more when low on life. if im in a fight and losing my last 10 or so melee attacks all proc crusader.
Also, i have had this recipe drop for me 4 times.
first 1 i learned...
second went to friend...
3 & 4 sold for 320+g
my friend on my server followed my exampleof not returning to town and started logging out at the tower, and logging in at the tower...
he is now at 6 drops.
he has sold 1 for 500g and another for 600g

Edited, Sun Aug 21 17:27:37 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Ok, so here I was farming for 4 hours straight and then this alliance rogue just comes in and starts kill the Spellbinders. Anyways, I've been farming these guys for 2 weeks straight and nothing yet. But as I looked on the alliance AH, I see that the rogue that stole my kills had a Formula in the AH... God, I hate farming even more.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Hate me but i got it in 1st kill :D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i always thought getting this on your first kill was impossible, but it happened to me :].. went to hearthglen to get some food from a mage and on my way back i aggroed a spellbinder and got dismounted and it dropped. after that sells i'll need 100g for 150 riding. pretty sweet

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I have been camping crusader all night, not for sale mind you but for my personal use. The one guy that kept saying lawl dropped again... who claimed he got like 4 in no time... don't believe that for a second. There are people like that who think that by posting things like that it will make you feel stupid for not getting the drop. They are obviously lying.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I farmed a total of about 4-5 hours and about 100-150 kils before it finally dropped. Just keep running up and down in tower to kill the Spellbinders before they spawn 3 at a time.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

How much strength does it give?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

after about an hour of grinding this dropped :))

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got mine on the 3rd kill... luck I guess lol. Had some free time, went out to farm for em and got it early, then I was left with nothing to do!

Edited, Mon Jul 11 05:06:13 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

793 kills and finally it droped :)
Farmed it at night when server usually is calmer...these mobs drop nice amounts of runcloth aswell.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

dropped on my 104th kill

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Not to get involved in the arguement about how many you have to kill, but the whole idea of randomness means, basically, you could get the thing on your first kill, or you could literally never see it. There's a random chance PER MOB that that mob will have it; and the game doesn't keep track of how many mobs you've killed without getting the drop. It, like life, doesn't care.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got this within one hour on my first day :D
also got a two of portals

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Well I've been farming the tower on and off for three days while waiting for AV this past weekend (about 2 hours a day), still haven't seen it.

'Course each time I'm splitting the spawn with somebody else farming it for cash, whereas I'm looking for it to mem so I can enchant for my guild. Finally got my arcanite rod and really want this for both myself (60 prot/retri pally), and guild tanks.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

nvm

Edited, Thu Mar 9 08:20:59 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Me and my friends have literally been out here for months 3-4 hours a day (thats all we can spare due to RL) and we have NEVER seen this drop.

Edited, Wed Apr 19 00:45:20 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got it after farming for 2h about. My alt will be pleased :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

OMG! this dropped for me after about 30min farming the spellbinders.I was just about to hs to orgrimmar and put it on AH but then I remembered the countless times ive read about multiple drops. And O M G! it dropped again third mob after the first one that dropped! Amazing!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I farmed for 10min and it dropped :p, if thats not lucky I don't know what luck is ^^

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ROFL i farmed for like 15 minz and then the mighty crusader dropped... i was abot to hs to org and ah it but then i thought of all the times i have read about multiple drops so i farmed for 20 more mins and once again the mighty crusader dropped! i couldent belive it!

OMFG 30 mins of more farming and another drop !

Edited, Sep 17th 2006 at 9:50pm EDT by KocherWTF

Комментарий от Allakhazam

was on my friend's rogue for farming and I decided i've it a shot(expecting I'd have to kill 9000 of these guys). 3rd spellbinder = drop.

there was a shaman who spent all day farming for it, I told him about my 3rd kill, he was like wtf. 5minutes later, he got his. I'm good luck.

Edited, Jan 11th 2007 9:14pm by yoshilisk

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Ok when I was 60 I farmed this place nonstop for days... Now that I'm 70 I decided what the hell I was gonna try for it again. I came up to the tower and started to kill spellbinders. Got to the top and killed the third one and it dropped. Waited for them to respawn and got it again. Seeing how my server is rather new the AH prices have jumped to 400g for this enchant. Well now I have 1 Crusader enchant and some blue Design that I traded for. Its all luck I guess. Here I come epic Flying mount.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My guild mate pulled out two of these suckers in 3 days, sold one for 300g and gave me the other at a fraction of that. Apparently mage is the class to do this with. I can kill about 50 an hour as a rogue at 58, but that's still close to 1 day for an average drop.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

48995/89=550 for 1 crusader enchant

Комментарий от Allakhazam

dropped after the second mob i killed

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Farmed for about an hour and a half and got a drop, mob was downstairs again oddly enough

Комментарий от Allakhazam

killed about 20 before it dropped...lucky mee i guess :)

Goldenclaw lvl 60 Paladin

Комментарий от Allakhazam

We all know way too much info about where it drops and how often, what does it DO!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Edited, Sat Dec 10 14:14:25 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

God damn Blizzard must love me too.
Was going to Hearthglen to mine and killed 8 of these mobs which were spawned at the time.
All 8 dropped the crusader formula, WOW.
I went back to Ironforge right away and sold all 8 to a female dwarf hunter for 900 gold each.

8 Epic mounts goes,
<-------- there.

Thank you Blizzard.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The cows in Elwynn forest dropped these for me on my first two kills, I decided to continue and finally got a squirrel to drop off of the fifth kill

Комментарий от Allakhazam

took me some weeks before getting it.... but I got like a Krol Blade some days before I got the formula..... also got some blues :\... and can't get a green >_<

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Grinding my hunter at the tower got grinded about 3½ bars of lvl 59 and it dropped. Grinding pays off...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

loool got one from scarlet archmage, i didnt even know that they could drop this..

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Комментарий от forkinater

1000 kills....still nothing....Rngesus please grant me your blesssing.

Комментарий от alexzlol123

Whats up with the mobs that drop this recipe? Currently only listing Archmages (Tyrs Hand) but not the Spellbinders in WPL.

Edit: Fixed now and i just got the recipe after 12hrs of farming.

Комментарий от qq669

So i went to farm this... recipe... and it wasnt fun. 1.13 classic wow... 912 mobs it took me, i... dont want to farm anything like this again, the respawn time isnt THAT bad, but it still feels crappy just waiting for them to respawn... Another guy came to farm after i got the recipe, and it took him 20 mins :./

Комментарий от Nitrie

As Disco Priest from late 57 to 59 and a half i farmed the tower. I calculated exp/mob exp and i killed more than 1200 Spellbinders, collected around 10g, 600 runecloth, trash items for around 50g and at the end i got the recipe which it costs 120-180 in my realm since i am enchanted i will use it. It take me around 12-15 hours /played.

Комментарий от Gent

In vanilla I farmed this alot, I think I found 2 my entire career. The first I learned the 2nd for dough.
This go around I've had ALOT better luck, I got my first about 10 minutes in. Promptly learned it within a day or so of being 60. I then proceeded to farm it a couple hours every evening and it took 2 weeks before I got my 2nd to sale on the AH. Now today, I was bored looking for a group so figured I'd farm while waiting for the dungeon and about 20 minutes in. It just dropped!

I know the drop rate is horrible for this. But i'm just beating the odds for the moment. GL Jubilee Atiesh Classic

Комментарий от Mork623

Got this enchant after spending a steady 5 hours of farming, and having to compete with other players and those amazing cry babies who /flag and spit and taunt for a fight. I kept my cool, stuck it out, did my best to snag the npcs as fast as I could and out of all of the farming. I got this enchant, but I also did get an orb of deception, a few greens and loads of runecloth. So glad I picked up tailoring, so I'm set on mats to d/e :D.

GL out there to those farming, don't give up and just keep at it. I've also killed the lv 63 elite rare Scarlet High Clerist 3 times (sadly no epic dagger drop). I got what I needed and don't want to return here unless I'm given a quest to return.

Комментарий от Armak

Another example of low-droprate craziness. 0.5 % (recently went down to 0.4) - which means one drop in every 200 kills on average. A friend of mine had two drops in his first 80 kills, 5-8 drops in a total of ~350 kills. Easy money, Mr Armak thought. Months later I'm still slaughtering those Spellbinders at 1233 kills (!). My personal chance of not having seen at least one formula is 0.206946726 %.
Let's see how small I can make this number. I've spent a total of ~ 40 hours farming. Including sharing the tower with another person, including fighting annoying ~~!@#$%^&s~~ hunters of the same faction coming by and aggressively taking all mobs, including arriving and instantly leaving (closed due to overcrowding) and including fighting the alliance which is a bad idea being a tank warrior and being in a tower with stairs - easy job for casters.
All in all: Not very good for chasing those 300 g on the auction house. I hope for overcompensation after my first drop (if it ever occurs). 12 drops in the next 100 kills and I'm okay with it.

Pro tip: Give it a try only once. Do 50 kills. No drop? Buy it from the AH, don't farm this. The mobs don't even drop ANYthing of relevance, ecxcept maybe random world drops. At about 50 % they only drop gold. My best loot was one of those darkmoon cards, 50 g. And occasionally a major mana potion. A complete waste of time - but I can't stop now.

Edit: Secretly, I only complained here to force the drop. And after 1285 kills it dropped! After that I roughly did 200 more kills- the second drop is yet to come :/

Комментарий от MardenThing

Got it on like my 3rd kill tonight, lucky proftable night.

Комментарий от VzDub

Currently on a 7 hour farm for this pattern.

I'm @ 434 kills and starting to lose my mind. Writing this post to calm myself down, lol.

Wish me luck.

*EDIT*

On my 550th kill, a Warrior managed to gank me and steal my mob. He logged onto his Horde toon and linked me the imagr of crusader. It dropped on THAT very mob and he stole. I could break something. Now I'm obsessed.

Комментарий от flagcatcher

Got this enchant after some farm, a total of 434 kills needed for it to drop.
Dropped in phase 5 on Gehennas EU.

Комментарий от kenyostylez

So while in vanilla i literally got it from my first mob ( or actually a horde players mob that i killed ) it now took me 861 kills so i guess the universe always balances itself out..and the best thing about it ...since the loot is created during the mobs spawn, while i was grinding the tower for hours the mob with the formula in the bag was already patrolling down the forest path ...luckily it was nighttime

Комментарий от Maaarf

They really should increase drop rates on ALL of these kind of things. It's not like they are going to be on the auction as hardly anyone is putting anything on there these days.
The amount of farming involved in getting this, and quite a few other recipes, is ridiculous . and then there is the orbs, MORE damn farming, really they should call the game world of farming, or farming weekly, or farming for no return for the rest of your life...
After countless hours, and God knows how many spellbinders, no formula, it's not my idea of fun, and certainly is NOT what I want to be doing with my valuable WoW time.

And here I am again, almost a year later and still the bstd hasn't dropped.
I admit that I don't try to farm it all that often now, mostly because it pisses me off so bad when I do !

Комментарий от Protag1

Took a week for it to drop(200kills) i do a whole rotation of farming so I won’t get bored, not efficient but fun. GL!

Комментарий от HighFiv32512

I guess I am pretty lucky - got 2 drops today for about 1 hour of farm on Golemagg EU, managed to tag almost every spellbinder that spawned for that time (but hey- the 2 warlocks camping the spot got the avengers tags ^_^ ).

These sell for 760 gold atm, so finally I will have enough to buy a mount !

Комментарий от Aestthesis

Still trying to farm this recipe! its already 750 kill s on Spellbinder and nothing so far!

Комментарий от Mafima

You can expect it to drop after 400 kills.
if the formula goes for 400 gold thats 1g per kill, which is pretty good. but beware that u have to wait for respawns!

math:
chance to get it: 0,4% so 0,004
0,996 ^ (kills) = chance of not getting it

0,996 ^ 100 = 0,667. 66% not getting it => 33% of getting it
0,996 ^ 400 = 0,09. 9% not getting it => 91% of getting it
0,996 ^ 1000= 0,018. 1,8% not getting it => 98% of getting it

Комментарий от KneezMz

Here's the math:

The probability of dropping an item is 0.43%, or 0.0043.
The probability of not dropping an item is 1 - 0.0043 = 0.9957.
To have a 0.43% chance of dropping an item at least once, we need to calculate 1 - (the probability of not dropping an item every time).
1 - 0.9957 = 0.0043 = 0.43%

So, the player has to kill at least 10,000 enemies to drop an item.

Комментарий от Pomodorosan

The only source of Righteous Orbs outside of Stratholme is the singular Crimson Courier that patrols from Stratholme to Tyr's Hand, with about a 1.5% drop chance. She is escorted by four Crimson Bodyguards who do not seem to have any loot. This makes Crusader extremely difficult to get in Season of Discovery Phase 3 at level 50.

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