не очень понятно зачем близзы поставили в требования 81 уровень.

ведь сферы хаоса могут быть получены только персонажем 85го.

возможно в следующих патчах сферы перестанут быть БоП.

сейчас к сожалению эти очки может надеть только персонаж 85го уровня.

Комментарий от aSki

Подскажите можно ли его дать инчантеру чтоб тот распылили и осколок забрать себе?

If there are 13-16 possible stamina gear sockets and all together averaging out each piece gives 500stam... (rings and necks obviously will have lower so im using the gem sockets in other gear as evening out) then a tank should tech have in lvl 359 gear (lvl200 if it was wotlk) about 7500 stam in lower tier 11... Tanks on average should have about 105k health unbuffed (possibly self buffed) Everyone else should have about 75k-85k...
Extra:
Gems have increased by 250% of their wotlk version (10str+10crit)=(25str+25crit)
As you have noticed the amount of gems in gear has also increased...
The new difference between levels is quite... obvious... They want a Level 82 to be 2x stronger then a lvl 80 in full tier 10... the reason being is because the level cap only went up 5 so they are packing all the stats into 5 lvls...
Im just reading this off mmo-champs btw...

Комментарий от malletin

well they might not have many sockets but the blue and green cata gems are heaps better than the wotlk epic gems^^

Комментарий от 620394

MOTHER OF ALL THINGS HOLY @ THE STATS!

Meh, It'll probably work out considering how damage will be increased as well, nothing to break your head about ^_^

Комментарий от ehsparkman

The stats do look amazing. After scimming it some more I saw something even more shocking...REQUIRES LVL 80! It could be not complete or w/e and should be lvl 85 cause of the 525 engineering required, but if not I can't wait to see lvl 85 epic items :D.

I think I can bring the shock down a bit for some people. Remember that they removed spell power and attack power, so that's why the stats are a little higher than expected. Still they would be insanely high even with the attack power/spell power being there ^^.

Комментарий от 456130

Maybe now we shall a rise in the infamous mage tanks!

Комментарий от bagong

don't only see it's stamina,
look at it's armor, 1K? WTF it's clothier gear!

Комментарий от deathzone

The new Bandage is going to heal 30k HP, that's 24200 HP more than the heavy frostweave one!

Assuming that bandages still wont heal more than 40% health, seeing 100k health clothies in cata is a big chance. if not pve clothies, pvp clothies.

Комментарий от 340579

People who dislike the amount of stats on the new gear shouldn't be too suprised, we are fighting the cataclysm and Deathwing.
I can imagine tanks having 100k+ at the end of cata.

Комментарий от 620394

To all who haven't, check out the 3D model in java, the goggles got a cool animation!
Seems like engineers will be getting some eye-candy.

Комментарий от ughzean

Its going to take some time to get used to my items not having Spell Power, or the old and partially forgotten, (Increases Damage and Healing by X amount.)

Комментарий от 430459

Now, how much stamina will the tank engineering goggles give?

Комментарий от 85246

The yellow & blue sockets are most likely placeholders for special engineering sockets:

http://db.mmo-champion.com/search/all/Hydraulic/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/search/all/cogwheel/#tab=item

This way Engineers can customize their helms; and hence there are no green stats (crit, hit etc) on the goggles.

Комментарий от 439762

The on use is pretty silly considering we have spyglass. They really should have done something else with the on use.

Agreed, not only that, it's an idea that came out pre-bc. With all those people downrating others will someone enlighten me on what is the 'on use' even useful for? Other than making it not being able to put Mind Amplification Dish on it?

Комментарий от 385466

personally i think this will be really awesome, i mean a caster with like 85k health? that my friends = win x chuck norris :D

Комментарий от Random771452

looks like they want you to replace your crappy ICC gears immediately upon opening the box for cataclysm.

Комментарий от 382750

JC Denton would be proud. :>

Комментарий от 230820

Socket Bonus +10 Int... I dont know why they bother with socket bonus
it has always been a ridiculous amount from day one and now it only seems like a joke

Комментарий от 242741

Wait, this is a level 80 items and cloth...
The Plate tanking items for 850 how much Stamina will give?

Комментарий от 592666

Ummm...just to state the obvious. This is the Beta. Something tells me it will probably be toned down a bit. I will be very surprised to see any kind of stats this high.

Комментарий от 99096

Encase anyone needs some clarification: ilvl300 = 79, ilvl316 = 81, ilvl325 = 82, ilvl333 = 83, all numbers from Wowhead so of coarse, ilvl346 = 84, and these will be lvl cap, ilvl359 = 85, so the first heroic instance will drop this ilvl epics, equal to what you would see drop off a current heroic end bosses. so this will last you until you get your first raid helm.

Комментарий от Delgabrie

bah another 1k armor engineer mai- WTF CLOTH?

Комментарий от 617491

Splinter Cell goggles? ;-) I love them
Just imagine what happens when you enter the ICC in lvl85 gear and you get 30% stats increase ^^ (30% increase will be the last buff)
We will kill the LK 25 heroic with a group of 5 people, right?

Комментарий от 97468

hahahah If this is going this direction,the fresh lvl 85 won't have a prob killing the Lich King in a 5-man version:D
And if cloth has 512 stamina i wonder how much hp will bears have:D:D:D

Комментарий от 627052

I'll miss all our stats. This new stats system really sucks.

Комментарий от QFred

I still find it wierd that a pair of armor that fits the lenght of a headband will protect your head from the smash of an ogre. 1k armor, god, this all stats condensation made stats budget way up, since caster gear without haste/crit/hit will be having a butload of int when the stats are converted unless they rebudget to stamina and armor, which is the case of these.

Комментарий от 290763

And to think in pre-bc the best gear only had about 25 stamina.

Комментарий от rob1n3tt

it'll be a fun sight if they manage to not get the stamina to be less efficient at boosting health. "Hello, can i tank AM (Abyssal Maw) heroic?" "Whats ur hp unbuffed?" "136k" *faints*

Комментарий от DragynGrizHills

With all the time people will spend farming mats to get gear with 100+ ilvl than ICC 10 reg the Lich king can go fishing!

Комментарий от 633024

Every time I think I've decided on professions for my new character, I keep coming back here and seeing how fantastic these look in the 3D viewer and change my mind again. I hope that the mail ones look this good. I also hope these aren't replaced too early in the xpac because I'm about to pick up engineering just for these.

Комментарий от Pheonixfire

In my opinion we engineers are made to take on the expansions by storm with 80 and 85 epics in the 70's. Late game your selling choppers and arrows for a cup of coffee. Give us submirines blizz!

Комментарий от 530887

this is mai face...
8O

Комментарий от LoKHor

Don't think anyone has said this yet, but Wowhead is showing these with a blue and a yellow socket. This is inaccurate, as they have a cogwheel socket and a hydraulic socket. Each engineering helm can be fitted with a cogwheel and a hydraulic pump (as well as a meta, of course), which in themselves have insane stats. We're talking +132 of two "green" stats of your choice (mastery, crit, spirit, etc), making these goggles exceptional at level 80 and still very good for tier 1 content at level 85.

Комментарий от agentex50

It seems everyone here fails to mention one thing. That new items along with CURRENTLY EXISTING items will also react to the changes. thus, you can easily expect Shadowmourne to end up having around 700 stamina.

Комментарий от Williamgood

The only thing I fear with the new gear and ilvls, is Gear score and 9001.... If you understand what I mean than I will not coniture.

Комментарий от 356457

Yay! New tanking gear! :D

Комментарий от 657861

Everyone is saying OMG STAMINA! while I am the only one noticing that you need 20 elementium bars. that is 20kg on my realm, and thats not even half the mats you need.

Комментарий от megamech109

You are thinking Hardened Elementium, the ones needed to work towards Thunderfury I do believe, Blizz have mentioned that they want to increase health-pools somewhat, and it looks as if their plans might be working... To be honest I am looking forward to making the plate ones as soon as Cata is released, I threw all my gold at engineering to cap it early on and am building a gold-pile as big as everest to help on my way to 525 (I think it is 525) ... by the time I get there I will likely be level 85 but still I hope Engineers get buffed the heck out of in Cata

Комментарий от 661221

OMG!
Thats insane.
Will tanks have like 90k hp unbuffed? :D mad ass

Комментарий от 251280

It is not a Yellow Socket + Blue Socket it is infact a Cogwheel Socket + Hydraulic Socket

Cogwheels

•Fractured Cogwheel +132 Mastery Rating
•Quick Cogwheel +132 Haste Rating
•Smooth Cogwheel +132 Critical Strike Rating
•Subtle Cogwheel +132 Dodge Rating
•Flashing Cogwheel +132 Parry Rating
•Precise Cogwheel +132 Expertise Rating

Hydraulic Pumps

•Rigid Hydraulic Pump +132 Hit Rating
•Sparkling Hydraulic Pump +132 Spirit

Комментарий от 380942

Well, todiwan....

WoTLK to Cataclysm damage increase will be much smaller than Vanilla to TBC and TBC to WoTLK.

I dont know, what kind of reasoning do you have....but look at mine. For ease of calculation, I will use Spell Power as example.(You can do the same with DPS).
In Vanilla, the SP ranged from ~30 to the top caster staff(KT one), with ~120 sp.
TBC started with ~120 sp reputation\heroic weapons(slightly weaker than KT's) and ended with ~280 sp(KJ weapons).
WotLK started with 408 sp(ilvl200 epics). ~1.5 times the TBC top. Ended with ~800 sp LK weapons.(Correction - ~1118 sp with Cata mechanics)
Cataclysm starts with 1955 sp(359ilvl first epics). About 1.8 times over top WotLK
Does it look smaller?

Blizzard wants fights, especially in PvP, to actually take a bit of time instead of killing someone with 3 hits.

With 4.0.1 mechanics innovations, nothing says my opinion better than my (PvP)friend's quote about BGs: "Now you either kill someone very quickly, or die in 2 seconds". Before you rush to call him or me noob, to yell about bgs' gameplay and "@#$% happens".....I agree and understand. But this quote is straight about 4.0.1(Cata) mechanics. And no stamina, no 100k health will not improve PvP. In WotLK we've seen 10-20k PvP crits. In 4.0.1 these numbers are a daily routine. Do you expect Cata to reduce them to 5-10k? Not less than 30-50k, I would say.....

Same with healing. You won't be able to heal up someone to full with 1 heal. It will take multiple big heals to do it.

Ask any 4.0.1 healer about changes in his healing....try to find any complaints, complications(except for Treelovers) or nerfs. Healing has NOT become harder. It will scale identically with mindless damage....

And finally, the new mechanics(which I've mentioned a few times already). Vanilla->WotLK had very smooth mechanic changes, the rough changes were only class-specific. This 4.0.1 patch has put the game upside down. Before the expectable Cata scaling, it has ALREADY rolled up all our stats by about 1.3-1.5 times. *!@# if it could nerf us....ahem.

Stop right there.

Now, how can you stop a troll? Stay away from the voodoo....

Комментарий от 726139

creating this Item is really dissapointing. First of all its BoP wearable at lvl 81. But there is a catch, because one of the reagents is Chaos Orb which is BoP also and it's a drop from hc mode dungeons.

Комментарий от 411705

Unfortunately the cogwheels are currently unique-equipped. You'll have to use two different kinds in your two cogwheel sockets.

Комментарий от Rodpad

I presume this will break leather/mail/plate specialisation, thus making this useless for anyone but cloth wearers?

Комментарий от 371245

Why on earth is this item set to be used at lvl 81? I have a lvl 81 mage I was grinding eng on to use this, but one of the required items is a BOP drop from lvl 85 heroics.

Mark this down if you want, but they should pick one or the other. Either change the orbs from being bound, take it out of the required mats to make this, or don't set it so a lvl 81 can wear it. It's not even as though you could buy it from another player who can make it as the helm itself is bop.

Комментарий от tiltedhalo

Yes, the required level for this item is 81. This doesn't make any sense, however, since it is bind on pickup and requires a Chaos Orb (heroic dungeon drop) to craft it. So any of you engineers who may be thinking about dumping a boatload of cash into crafting it early on... save yourself some heartache. ;)

Комментарий от 121744

Doesn't it seem quite odd that these are level 81 goggles, yet an engineer can't make them until level 85 since you can't get a chaos orb until then? I wonder what Blizz was thinking when they did that or whether they were at all. :-)

Комментарий от 343916

Total Materials, Assuming Do-It-Yourself (or hiring other professionals)

You will need to be an Engineer (of course), have access to a Miner for Smelting Hardened Elementium, an Alchemist for transmutes, and/or a JCer to prospect out raw gems, and an Herbalist. You will also need to be able to complete a Heroic Dungeon for the Chaos Orb.)

22 x Volatile Air
12 x Volatile Earth
10 x Volatile Fire
10 x Volatile Water
06 x Obsidium Bar
03 x Pyrium Bar
30 x Elementium Bar

06 x Zephyrite
06 x Azshara's Veil
OR
02 Ocean Sapphire

01 x Chaos Orb

You can transmute the Zephyrite/Azshara's Veil, or get the Ocean Sapphires via Mining/Prospecting. These raw materials will produce the 6 Handful of Obsidium Bolts, 6 Electrified Ether, 3 Hardened Elementium, 2 Ocean Sapphire, and 1 Truegold bar required for the crafting of the final product.

Edit: Added clarification on the Zephyrite/Veil/Ocean Sapphires. I did not initially think I needed to explain they could be prospected OR transmuted.

Комментарий от FuxieDK

Spirit actually gives a ton of classes hit too.

Elemental Shaman, Balance Druid and Shadow Priest is only 3 classes/specs.. That's far from "a ton of classes"...

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